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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by AVincentInSpace@pawb.social to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[-] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As you read through these comments, note that anyone using the phrase "the liberals", followed by some condescending remark, are voting for trump.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago

None of them are voting for Trump. Some may be voting for a third party, some will vote for Biden.

[-] bigfoot@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

I've never heard an actual human talk that way who wasn't deeeep into MAGA.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago

Have you ever spoken to a Leftist? The Left hates Liberals, especially because historically Liberals have sided with fascists against Leftists.

[-] bigfoot@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

I’ve never heard an actual human talk that way who wasn’t deeeep into MAGA.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago

So you have never spoken to a Leftist, got it.

[-] bigfoot@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

I know many. We would never, ever, advocate for the sorts of things you are. Obvious Trump supporter is obvious.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Never have I voted for Trump, nor have I considered it. You certainly aren't a leftist, lol. Hell, I voted for Biden last time, and probably will again, but I am not delusional and don't expect the DNC to ever move to the left via electoralism.

[-] jayWL@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

Then please go out and talk to any ppl other than your WoW clan lmao

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

WoW is the only 2-party system that rivals the US when it comes to which party did the most war crimes

[-] jayWL@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago
[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago

Or the equivalent of voting for trump, anyway. And also note that they seem very angry over the notion that ppl will vote for biden while pursuing other forms of change or at the very least advocating for them.

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