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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Basically every single superhero movie is the establishment crushing the rebels and the audience cheers as the status quo is restored and the well intentioned villain who went too far is dispatched

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

The superhero character is still a Normal dude who overcomees adversity to defend the status quo as an outsider to the status quo. The establishment doesn't win, the hero shows up and saves it. This is because basic blockbuster writing is focused on the individual and the status quo is regarded as neutral good as well as unchangeable. Tha

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not in Marvel, they are literal government agents employed and sponsored by the state. Captain America is the establishment. Ironman is the establishment. Batman works with cops and is just a glorified corrupt cop, he’s the establishment as well.

Billionaires aligned with the state cannot possible be more establishment than they are

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

I was gonna caveat batman or at least how he's been handled for the last 20 years or so, I'm down with an animated series style batman, or even the arkham games went with where I'm down to forgive the problematic parts of batman if the camp level is high enough to allow me to. Then it's like, okay, fine, you're being a bit silly. Frank Miller and epitomizing with Nolan taking it fully seriously is when it becomes a problem for me. I haven't seen any marvel movies aside from the guardians of the galaxy movies and Thor Ragnarok, so I generally still think of superheroes as like...spider man or something. A guy with a working class secret identity usually up against well funded bad guys. Oh, I also watched the Netflix daredevil, that was good too. I've got some selective superheroe ignorance due to choosing not to watch movies I know I won't like.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Basing your analysis of superhero movies on non-Marvel films is like basing your analysis of Gangster movies on non-Scorsese films, and excluding The Godfather and Scarface. You are excluding by far the most prominent examples of the genre and cherry-picking outliers

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

But in doing so I don't have to watch bad movies. So...I still win.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

True but maybe sit the superhero movie discussions out.

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