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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 107 points 3 months ago

I’m an Iranian immigrant. You really just need to remind her of the benevolence of the west. Austria, France, and the USA showed my family clemency and grace. Austria and France let them in as refugees, the US gave them citizenship. They’re successful business owners. I’m in law school and work for the CA legislature. This kind of success story does not exist outside of the west. Seriously, immigrants have no better choice than a western country, and that’s where my loyalty lies because of the huge chance and opportunity the west gave my family.

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[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 99 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This kind of success story does not exist outside of the west

This. This is the completely unquestioned propaganda nugget that holds the whole belief system together. Who told you that? Why would you believe that?

Enormous, and economically successful countries like China, just have no immigrants, no refugees, and no social mobility? (not that the US has a ton, there's a lot of unacknowledged luck involved in this story too)

This story can absolutely happen in other countries. China even has a higher income mobility than the US. And if you look at the statistics, immigrants are actually disproportionately likely to be pulled down into the cycle of poverty that exists in the US, there's an alternate universe not so different from our own where this dipshit's parents had the resources to leave Iran, eventually landed in the US, and actually experienced downward mobility not upward, and rather than becoming exploiters themselves, hit a speed bump along the way like a serious injury or foreclosure or god knows what else and instead became destitute low-wage workers, who can't afford to live in (most of anyhow) CA, send their kid to law school to do unpaid internships, etc.

This person really has not considered that they aren't the protagonist of real life and most people's stories don't look like theirs

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 56 points 3 months ago

This person has clearly never even left California

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago

Of course it’s an Iranian. They’re becoming more obnoxious than Cubans on the internet.

[-] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

The Iranian internet filters are not to keep you out

It is to keep us in

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Aren't Iranian nationals pretty different from Iranian Americans

Iranian nationals seem pretty chill but Iranian Americans are probably as bad as Cuban Americans. I was just recounting how many American-born Iranian descent bootlickers I know, and then I remembered Jontron exists (aright counts for half I know but yea)

[-] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Iranian nationals are different but we still have top tier cringe on the Iranian corner of the internet

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

I've heard like a million stories of Middle Eastern medical doctors and professors who had to become cab drivers when they came to the US.

[-] MelianPretext@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

The top brass crème of compradors have had that happen to them once they got to the land of milk and honey. The former finance minister of Afghanistan now does Uber driving in DC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/18/afghanistans-last-finance-minister-now-dc-uber-driver-ponders-what-went-wrong/

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago

wtf, imagine getting in an uber and you're talking with the driver and they bring up they used to be the finance minister of afghanistan lmao

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

The American dream, everyone.

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