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And even if he were right, when was the last time you heard of someone in the UK stabbing a hundred people at a concert, or thirty kids in an elementary school?
There's been at least one organized mass stabbing in China, I don't think everyone died but over a hundred people were stabbed by a half dozen or so attackers.
So a "half-dozen" people organized to do with knives what one American could do with a gun?
Something that in the us is called a "Tuesday", we might add.
Yes, guns are obviously much more dangerous
Cool. There are over 600 mass shootings in the U.S. every year.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shootings-days-2023-database-shows/story?id=96609874
That wasn't a rebuttal, I'm pointing out how challenging it is that multiple people need knives in order to hit the numbers a single a shooter can. It's exceptionally rare.
Yeah no it's not. You're try to compare a place with social safety nets to a country that doesn't have any.
Trying to compare the EU to the USA for anything gun wise is pointless.
If there's one thing the last four years have taught us, it's that there's an overwhelming number of Americans who disagree with both sides of that analogy.
Antibiotics? You mean vaccines. Two very different things. If anything, those Americans are into antibiotics too much to the point that they thought taking them would stop COVID.
If Trump told them to never take antibiotics, they'd throw them all out that day.
Lol no it's not. The UK has no where near what we have when it comes to civ gun ownership. There are more guns in civ hands than all armies combined basically. When Australia did their forced buyback they had a 60% turn in rate....they had 1mil in civ hands at that time. Do you know what 40% is of 450 million firearms? Still more than all other nations that allow their citizens to even look at a firearm.
We have a very small sub set of people who commit gun violence. Do you think they'll be the ones to turn them in? No. Because most legally cannot own them now.
Gun control works great if you have safety nets already in place so people don't turn to crime to survive.
Also the NRA can fuck off... it's always hilarious when you think you're arguing with some Republican NRA dipshit.
What bullshit did I spew? The NRA just says mental health and gun control doesn't work. You listed a link to fucking Harvard which is known to directly make studies to say what they want. This isn't news.
I've stated that safety nets in countries with less crime in general isn't because they have less guns. It's because their citizens are taken care of. Are you really going to sit there and say this isn't true?
Suicides...guns do not magically make people more prone to suicide, this is and has always been false. Japan is one of the strictest countries on the planet for access to firearms. Yet they have a suicide rate that is far greater than ours. Are you suggesting their miniscule amount of suicides is related to their access to firearms?
Man you got me I'm a minority hillbilly who follows the NRA and watches faux news. Got me.
You apparently have an issue with reading comprehension, what part of fuck the NRA did you not get?
The studies from Harvard are well known flawed. Their DGU study assumed that for a DGU to happen a shot had to be fired, this is just single example of shit data. Most DGUs the firearm is never even drawn, usually it's shown and that's enough to de-escalate the situation.
I'll ask you, how do you plan on banning and getting rid of 450+ million firearms? You going to collect them all?
The CDC used to do legit studies, but since the whole "we're going to make a link that proves guns are bad" a lot of their shit has gone down hill. The level of pressure from Bloomberg "stop and frisk" and his ilk create a lot of bullshit studies that are designed to say one thing.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm
The ivory tower you sit in is so bright no one is able to look at it...
Actually, to that point, EU v US is a better comparison than "a country the size of Michigan" v US.
Here's the company America is in, worldwide, for the right to own guns.
Only 3 countries in the world protect the right to bear arms in their constitutions: the US, Mexico, and Guatemala
The Czech Republic does as well. Mexico doesn't really count, it's basically impossible to get a firearm as a civ and the cartels have basically all the weapons