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Overall, 39% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely proud" to be American in the most recent poll.

Meanwhile, only 18% of those aged 18-34 said the same, compared to 40% of those aged 35-54 and 50% of those 55 and over.

18% is still too high. As Obama's pastor said, God damn America! Americans have very little to be proud of at this point.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

You are confusing patriot and nationalist.

A Patriot loves his country and tries to do what's right for it, as in make it better.

A nationalist is a chauvinist, who believes his country is better than others, and deserves to have power over them. The nationalist is therefore also racist and xenophobe, and prefer isolation rather than cooperation with other countries.

I'm a patriot, but I realize my country has flaws, and some countries are better in some respects. But I still love my country.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just wanna point out that these words don't necessarily have those connotations globally. When I think of nationalism, I think of anti-colonialism. When I hear patriot, i think jingoist with flag on a pickup. It's totally valid if you wanna use those words with those qualifications but if you happen to be talking to me that's just how I would react to hearing it. Even if it turns out we see eye to eye on everything

[-] nickhammes@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Political ideologies can mean very different things in different countries/contexts. Republicans in France or the US are conservatives, broadly in support of the status quo. Republicanism in the UK, or late during the French Monarchy, is a much more revolutionary ideology, interested in upsetting the status quo with policies like electing a head of state. I think nationalist and patriot have similar relative meanings that reflect the nation one is from.

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 11 points 11 months ago

Also worth pointing out that every nationalist identifies as a patriot due to the negative connotations of the former.

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