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Determinism W (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It sounds like we have basically the same opinion but just expressed it in ways that lead to miscommunication, lol.

If I were to tweak something to match my approach more closely, it's that I consider diamat to be closer to a framework of investigation, one epistemology (that I'm a fan of) among several, just like "the" scientific method or the accumulated knowledge of communities that doesn't fit cleanly into a Eurocentric framing. I don't really need it to be more than that, so I'm okay with the idea that it also has its limitations. What matters is that we can become more determined and better at building revolution - and diamat definitely helps in one's thinking about it.

Re: 19th century German philosophers I have regrettably read many. It's only useful for exactly this topic, which is to say, not very. Wiederholen sie auf Deutsch. Okay it's also useful for one other thing: I can make toxic Trots and DSA libs shut up sometimes irl.

Fun fact: Freud used plain German words for id, ego, etc. Academics that love to get up their own asses decided to make them Latin in translation.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like we have basically the same opinion but just expressed it in ways that lead to miscommunication, lol.

Fair enough, that's what most of these things end up being

If I were to tweak something to match my approach more closely, it's that I consider diamat to be closer to a framework of investigation, one epistemology (that I'm a fan of) among several, just like "the" scientific method or the accumulated knowledge of communities that doesn't fit cleanly into a Eurocentric framing. I don't really need it to be more than that, so I'm okay with the idea that it also has its limitations. What matters is that we can become more determined and better at building revolution - and diamat definitely helps in one's thinking about it.

I dislike the idea of reducing diamat to "merely" a lens to view things rather than a scientific method that can and should be developed to overcome whatever limitations it has. You might like this essay, which unfortunately I can only find in audio form now. I don't like show-and-tell philosophy where everything is a toy to be played with and then put away, it feels nihilistic.

Okay it's also useful for one other thing: I can make toxic Trots and DSA libs shut up sometimes irl.

rat-salute

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

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