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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a group of self-styled experts." It states that Abraham "Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey."

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"Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five," according to the report. "Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41."

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden "ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans."

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[-] Syo@kbin.social 50 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Two things that make Trump the worst and arguably traitor to the US. Just so you know where I stand.

  1. He literally try to overturn an election and remain king.

  2. He piled on $8,400,000,000,000 to national debt. $2.5T came from his stupid tax cut law, which were only off set in the billions of increased tariffs, and about $2.3 from discretionary spending increase, plain old Republicans in charge and spending out the wazzu. Saving the last one $3.6T for COVID relief and laws, which everyone and their grandma pointed out the potential for fraud and abuse, but no guard rails were put in place and DOJ is merely chasing back millions in peanuts only because some fraudster was too stupid to keep their mouths shut.

Circumventing the Constitution and exacerbating the wealth inequality, were real acts of degrading the US, and at best just not giving a damn about the American people. Compared to all the other crap he did that were more performative, while below the office if the President, these two things have long term effect of weakening the county that I love. He's the worst President and the modern Republicans are only in for themselves.

[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

I would argue the damage from stacking the Supreme Court with corrupt nut jobs may have the worst fall out in the end.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

I think you should add in the incompetence in handling the whole covid fiasco.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 8 months ago

I think calling it incompetence is being too nice.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

For sure-- the cities got hit hardest early on, so what he saw initially was blue votes dying and just let it happen.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Sigh. I mean, we could go deep into the rabbit hole and talk about how he thought that he could kill off Blue State voters, but let's be charitable and just call him a nitwit and not a genocidal lunatic.

Sometimes, I'm just too nice.

https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-political-reasons-report-2020-7

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Its funny because blue states actually got the vaccine by choice.

Always relaxing watching your opponents eliminate their own ability to vote.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I was in NYC and the whole town closed up pretty fast. I'd be seeing news reports of people in the Red States partying like it was 1999 and knew they'd end up paying the price. I'm not happy people died, but I am mad at the fools who let it happen.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Im in NZ - we went into lockdown at 3 cases.

The unfortunate result of free will- the fools let it happen but each person out there had a choice as well. We chose to follow our lockdowns and eliminated it (the first time around) and got to get out again, total of something like 28 deaths before the vax came out.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

And there are people in America today who will tell you that the lockdown didn't work. Thanks for your comment

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The lockdown worked exactly as well as it could while those dropkicks ignored it.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

As is so often the case, we can blame Ronald Reagan. He made all kinds of jokes about how government couldn't work.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

Even without any of that, his public actions alone are enough.

The full story is just worse. :/

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee -3 points 8 months ago

You guys seem to forget that everyone was in panic mode when COVID started shutting everything down. Remember people actually dying over toilet paper? Remember 2020 George Floyd Riots and CHAZ taking over an entire city? Saying it's due to incompetence is grossly disregarding the events that took place. It was a complete shit show all around and NOBODY wanted to take accountability.

[-] Chuymatt@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

CHAZ did not take over Seattle…. Come on.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Can you link to anyone actually dying over toilet paper? Searched repeatedly and found nothing. Same with CHAZ taking over a city.

The riot I remember was when a neo-Nazi ran over an innocent woman in Charleston.

NOBODY else was President, and taking responsibility is in the job description

Finally, people died as the direct result of Trump tellign them to use unsafe treatments.

https://www.bbc.com/news/52012242

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/trump-endorsed-covid-treatment-may-have-killed-17000-people-study-finds/ar-AA1mx4cd

[-] trajekolus@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I think you should add in promoting the imperial interests of a very hostile power, Russia, to your list.

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