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[-] axont@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago

Someone in one of the other libertarian threads said like "70% of people in libertarian societies work as private security, investigators, lawyers, and bureaucrats" and I've been thinking about that a lot. It's like how the American founders assumed everyone would be a lawyer with a slave plantation.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

"70% of people in libertarian societies work as private security, investigators, lawyers, and bureaucrats"

I don't know how much truth there is to that. But it feels right. Also - my belief is that the most vociferous, annoying and possibly toxic libertarians are nearly all men.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, I don't mean that's what libertarians work as now. I mean in their overly complex hypothetical societies they seem to be these complex conflict resolution systems involving various private courts and private security that are always more bloated and inefficient than anything that exists in normal capitalism.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Most non-human primate societies have to dedicate more than half their time to social bonding exercises like mutual grooming, because if they don't, simmering disputes boil over into violence. The ability to offload some of that effort into abstraction--ethics and systemic altruism--was probably one of our early evolutionary successes. This whole plan is basically "what if we stopped doing that?"

[-] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Its not talked enough about how the enlightenment was pulling from a literal slave society (Athens)

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Turns out women don't like the idea of a society where their personal safety and security is entirely reliant on individuals with no actual oversight or consequences from their actions. How strange.

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

lmayo men be like "What reason could you possibly have for not believing that everyone will be polite and reasonable to you all the time?"

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