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[-] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's strange to me how gamers are viewed as a homogenous group. If e.g. a tennis player misbehaves on court, it's the individual. While with gamers, it's always the group as s whole . I for one, don't want to be bunched up with other people, just because we share a hobby.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

I feel like freeze-gamer doesn’t mean everyone who plays video games, it’s the people that making “gaming” their personality. Not, I am someone who enjoys video games, I am a gamer. It’s that type that treats media consumption as identity that tend to be horrible people.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 8 months ago

consuming media...fills the belly

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If the hobby develops its own subculture that poorly socialized children and manchildren base their entire identity around, and that subculture is incredibly reactionary and overall lame, then it is fair to shit on it.

Also even if gamers weren't reactionary people are still going to judge you for making consuming entertainment a hobby. Nobody considers watching TV a hobby, or scrolling tiktoks, or jerking off.

If shitting on gamers genuinely bothers you need to touch grass. Log off. Go outside.

People literally do. Have you seen sports fans or movie buffs? This is frankly just an absurd take.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Movie buffs aren't likely to hard-r me and start making "day of the rope" threats just for my liking a movie they find contemptible, or believing that women AREN'T second-class kitchen appliances; and the kinds of football hooligans who act like Gamer™ crackers do don't exist in Occupied Turtle Island yet. So for now, I'm going to keep shitting on invertebrate settler Gamer™ trash as the scumfucks they are.

[-] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

and the kinds of football hooligans who act like Gamer™ crackers do don't exist in Occupied Turtle Island yet.

Lmao Yeah. American sports fan never engage in racist harassment or violence. Sure.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 months ago

That's not what I said. I said it's levels to this shit, and Amerikan sports fans are not on the level of football hooliganism yet. When you've got kickers, tight ends, goalies, or point guards literally walking off their respective fields of play because an entire half the stadium is making monkey noises at them, then you'll have a point there. But til then, it's still levels to this shit, and the crackers are not there yet.

[-] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That is some absolute goal post moving nonsense. The claims made so far have been two

1:Gamers are exceptional because they are the only ones who define themselves by media consumption. This is naked bullshit

2:Gamers are uniquely reactionary and racist. And that's plainly fucking nonsense when sports fans exist.

Now you chime in with the caveat that sure sports fans might do that, but European sports fans are worse than American ones, to which the answer is... so? They still suck. They'll still form an impromptu cracker race riot because they lost or won.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

"Filmbros" and sports guys have the same negative reputation. At least with film bros film analysis is an intellectual pursuit and an established academic field. Gamers' critic of games are usually just them whining about the amount of polygons some virtual boobs have.

[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 8 months ago

or jerking off

The original hobby

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Pretty much everyone in the developed world under 30 plays videos games a fair amount these days. Gamer doesn't really refer to anyone who plays video games, or even plays a lot of video games, or are somewhat passionate about the medium, but people who build a whole culture and identity around video games. And that culture is sadly really fucking cringe due to a number of reasons, the primary culprit I suspect being that the whole gamer sub culture really grew out of the shittiest parts of the early internet and was actively encouraged and courted by the games industry.

[-] FanonFan@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Gamer is a signifier for multiple concepts, one of which is simply "anyone who enjoys gaming as a hobby" but a more specific one is roughly "a demographic in the Western anglosphere, ages 14-35, largely male, being marketed to by gaming corporations and the military, who see themselves as a 'class' associated with their gaming identity, and participate in that culture". The usage of the term in reference to the latter, or something like it, has been common for over a decade now, which we can see with early gatekeeping of the term (supposedly fake gamers, a judgement especially targeted at women), as well as both ironic and unironic identification as a "gaming" class (they targeted gamers and gamers rise up and gamers are the most oppressed demographic etc).

So the essence we're trying to invoke with this signifier is the people who strongly identify as gamers, who were caught up in gamergate with all the vitriol and misogyny that came out of it. Gamer an adopted consumer identity rather than an inherent or socially-enforced identity, so if it doesn't describe you then you don't have to identify with it.

Most people play games, but only a subsection of those are obsessed with wokeness and rage at the thought of non-white or cishet representation in video games. But that subsection is the most active in consuming games, or at least particularly vocally represented in secondary media.

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