805
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] 4grams@awful.systems 101 points 9 months ago

“Minimizes diminished App Store revenue”

I am an Apple user and in the end I’m more comfortable with them having access to my data than google.. but man, they don’t even bother to pretend it’s a pro-consumer issue thing anymore.

Been noticing that a lot lately, corporate weasel language is dying as these companies grow more and more emboldened.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago

It's pretty funny considering their main arguments have never mentioned the financial impact and always leaned on SeCuRitY, or some dumb shit the fanboys will regurgitate.

Like, Apple you lying little slut — we know you cuck for coins in everything you do.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 20 points 9 months ago

I'm getting real tired of corpo doublespeak. It's everywhere right now and I feel like people are finally getting wise to it. I don't want to hear whatever made up by committee garbage you came up with. Give us an answer.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 9 months ago

Just use something AOSP with F-droid. It will be much better for privacy.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Lineage with F-droid. Or regular linux.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 months ago

It's a matter of time. Other countries just need a copy paste law. Apple knows this. But right now it's worth it to keep 2 systems around.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Anything Google is optional on Android, especially since the EU's DMA which now mandates the service accounts to be decoupled (or to make coupling optional, to be more precise).

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Both Google and Apple sell your data to the same companies. It's kinda the point of them having 'an ecosystem' (monopolized ofc).

All "privacy" efforts they made with their OSs were exclusively so third party apps can collect less data from you and have to buy data from Google/Apple.

[-] my_blackest_day@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Proof that Apple sell your data?

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

I am gonna guess they have their own ad setup. So they collect the data, setup profiles and whatnot. Then an advertiser can come and pay to use their system for targeted ads. Now does that count as "selling your data"? Not technically I guess. Google does exactly the same thing tho, right? I fail to see how they differ in any way. I suppose you can HOPE that apple cares about its reputation enough to handle your data carefully, but that is about it. Hopes and prayers.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

The op I replied to? Apples quarterly revenue statements? Their terms you agree to? Explicit 'Apple privacy policy' on the subject?

Both Apple and Google restrict third party app privacy not for your protection/increased privacy but to monopolize data collection. Eg Facebook vs Meta was a few years ago a fairly public fight.

But on both OSs you don't really have the option to restrict data collection from their services (on some Androids you can't even disable Google services, much less uninstall them). And Google also pays several billions per quarter to Apple to be the default search ~~data collection~~ engine.

It is true tho that companies differ a lot so the data collection is different too (the biggest difference is that Apple doesn't have that much need for user data since it isn't really in personalized ad business).

[-] jemorgan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

You are delusional. It’s wild that you’re using sources like Apple’s privacy policy as a source when it directly contradicts what you’re claiming.

The authoritative sources that you listed explicitly state:

  • Apple only delivers ads in 3 places (App Store, Apple News, Stocks). Contrast this with Google, which delivers ads on virtually every app on every screen you interact with if you’ve got an Android phone.

  • Apple doesn’t share any personal data with third parties for advertising. They also don’t “sell” your data at all. They also don’t buy (or receive) any personal data from third parties to use for marketing. Again, contrast that with Google, whose entire business model is doing each of those things as invasively as possible.

I’m not claiming that Apple is “moral” or “ethical” or anything like that. But Apple’s profits are driven by them selling hardware, which means that if I’m someone who wants to buy hardware, their interests are at least somewhat aligned with mine. On the other hand, Google’s profits are driven by selling ads that are based on the most emotionally charged personal information they can gather. Any service they provide you is just bait for you to chew on so they can build the inventory they sell to advertisers.

Sorry, but you really need to lay of the crack my friend.

this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2024
805 points (96.4% liked)

Mildly Infuriating

35457 readers
46 users here now

Home to all things "Mildly Infuriating" Not infuriating, not enraging. Mildly Infuriating. All posts should reflect that.

I want my day mildly ruined, not completely ruined. Please remember to refrain from reposting old content. If you post a post from reddit it is good practice to include a link and credit the OP. I'm not about stealing content!

It's just good to get something in this website for casual viewing whilst refreshing original content is added overtime.


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means: -No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...


7. Content should match the theme of this community.


-Content should be Mildly infuriating.

-At this time we permit content that is infuriating until an infuriating community is made available.

...


8. Reposting of Reddit content is permitted, try to credit the OC.


-Please consider crediting the OC when reposting content. A name of the user or a link to the original post is sufficient.

...

...


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Lemmy Review

2.Lemmy Be Wholesome

3.Lemmy Shitpost

4.No Stupid Questions

5.You Should Know

6.Credible Defense


Reach out to LillianVS for inclusion on the sidebar.

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS