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A visitor from the U.S. got more than they asked for at a Toronto hotel restaurant when they ordered a cheeseburger on Monday night that was served with a waiver on the side.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After reading the article, I'm on the hotel's side.

If someone asks for meat to be prepared in a way that Health Canada says is below the optimal temperature to kill pathogens, then the customer is putting themselves at risk and should bare any liability.

If someone asked for unpasteurized milk, raw eggs, or live seafood, I'd expect them to get the same waiver.

Seems quite sensible.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would be as well were it not for one small detail, and it's that the waiver was presented after they started eating.

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, still on the restaurants side. Like yes, it was a mistake and they should have presented it earlier, but asking for a burger to be done medium isn't a common thing here in Canada. They might not have thought about the waiver until then.

Edit: my point here is that this article is presenting the waiver itself as some kind of wrongdoing or indictment about the restaurant's quality/safety. To me, this seems wrongheaded and the timing of the waiver being brought out seems more like "whoops we forgor" thing than a "desperately covering our ass" thing -- since again, medium burgers aren't really a thing here.

I'm not going to fault the hotel for trying their best to please customer requests and the customer being Pikachu shock faced when he's asked to not sue the restaurant for accommodating his McDeath Burger extra value meal.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a literal west coast burger chain that serves medium as standard. Just cause you don't ask for something doesn't make it uncommon.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't care it's still very uncommon here. Order a burger at a restaurant in the states they ask you how you want it like ordering a steak. Order a burger in Canada they do not.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

You don't know shit about Canada.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

That was a mistake, I'm sure. Puts the hotel at a greater liability (i.e. the customer refuses to sign), but someone eating undercooked meat would already know the risks, so this wouldn't stop them from eating it.

[–] Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who eats that fast. Like something doesn’t add up. They brought the food but came back afterwards.

Are you trying to blame him for eating too quickly?

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu -3 points 1 year ago

I feel bad for y'all food standards

[–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He ordered the burger MEDIUM. In no world should that require a waiver.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all ground beef is freshly ground by the restaurant.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I'm confused.

Rare has pink in the middle, and so at risk.

Medium is cooked through, no pink, and safe.

Well is just a hockey puck.

Where in the world is "medium" undercooked?

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Medium is a temp of 145 and 160 is recommended for food safety, apparently. I'm surprised too, I thought medium was considered safe.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I don't know man, I've always been thought ground beef always needs to be cooked well.