It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.
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Honestly, picking Trump again is a good thing for the rest of us. We know he can lose and because of the last presidential election and his base is just getting smaller.
It's not like any Republican is a good candidate. All of them think abortion is a crime and will appoint shit supreme court justices. So give me the one I know loses because they lost before.
None of the other candidates had a chance at winning. That is not the same as Trump having a chance at losing.
I think he is implying that trump has already lost an election.
Biden BARELY beat him the first time around and conditions are WORSE this time around:
1: The electorate has a ridiculously short memory and aren't currently suffering from Trump being president.
2: Related to but distinct from 1, Biden's main strategy of "at least I'm not the other guy" is much less effective for an incumbent than a challenger.
3: Biden is currently alienating a large part of his own base by supporting two seperate genocides (Gaza and Yemen), one of which Democrats actually care about even when there's a Dem president.
Don't get me wrong, I REALLY want him to win since he's by far the lesser evil, but for the above reasons and others, there's a significant risk of him actually losing if the traitor isn't disqualified as he should be
Biden won by nearly 7 million votes with a 62% of votes under 30 years old and 52% under 45 years old.
Actually the only age group he didn't win with was 65+ and they're the ones dropping faster and faster each month.
So you're assuming people will take Trump over Biden because he was involved in genocide when he was involved in 8 years of drone strike champion before he ran in 2020.
He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage of votes cast than Hillary and the Dem candidate winning the sub-45yo vote is pretty much a given. In most elections, it would be by much more.
As for the 65+ group, a lot of fascists and people who don't consider fascism more of a deal breaker than a (D) behind a name are aging into that group, perhaps as many as are dying off.
And no, I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out that there's a big risk of the pro-democracy candidate losing if he and the rest of the DNC don't stop thinking that "Not Trump" is enough and start listening to what the public wants.
I don't know how to explain to you that you just agreed with me.
You agree that young people vote dem
You agree old people are dying off
But you think Dems will be held accountable by voters by electing a worse candidate for them just to spite the Dems? .
People will take the best option they are provided and 2020 had the highest voter turnout since 1900 for sleepy creepy Joe.
You obviously have a lot more faith in the rationality of voters than I do, in spite of the whole gestures at entire world thing.
In stead of pointing out details, I'm just gonna hope that your faith will be rewarded in a little under 11 months and wish you a nice day.
"I don't have an argument, but I can't handle being wrong, so I wrote this to ensure the safety of my ego"
No. I was about to refute their misconceptions point by point but decided it wasn't worth the effort since we're ostensibly on the same side and nothing I or anyone else can say would convince them.
Same with you, it seems, so unless you actually have something to add, I suggest you take your conclusion jumping elsewhere.
Please do try. I'd like to see you show how hilariously out of your element you are trying to prove something to a bunch of randos on the internet :)
Classic conservative playbook... as soon as somebody proves you wrong or even just argues well against your points, you make a short comment indicating that the time for discussion has passed and that you've already won.
It's a well documented strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA&t=0
Enjoy your astroturfing
Says the one who calls me a
Dude, can't you read? I clearly said that Biden's the lesser evil by far and that the Trump presidency was a catastrophe.
I'm not calling Biden an evil because I think he's too far left. I'm calling him an evil because he's way too far right and way too authoritarian. Dude loves cops and the fascist apartheid state Israel, just like Trump does.
I still think you're a conservative, just the kind that wears a Mao t-shirt instead of a Reagan one...
Also go look up what astroturfing means
That would make me a tankie. Tankies are super authoritarian and I'm the opposite. That's one of the things I dislike about Biden, remember?
I tend to occupy a very wide field between European style Social Democrat to Left Libertarian bordering on anarchism, depending on the specific subject.
Always on the "no such thing as inherent authority" end of the axis where Biden's at the "cops are great" end, though.
I'm well aware of campaigns disguising themselves as grassroots when in actuality some very rich people are behind it.
Ironically, every campaign of The Senator From MBNA has been more or less astroturfing.
Since when has Joe Biden been marketed as a grassroots candidate? Sorry, but the 90s were like 30 years ago buddy.
I literally just started this comment chain to troll, but now I'm genuinely worried about your critical thinking skills.
Except Bidens base is also getting smaller. The whole funding a genocide thing isn't exactly winning him any supporters.
He's not funding a "genocide thing". The US has subsidized Israel for decades. Not yanking all of our support because they responded to a terrorist attack on their civilian population is not the same as "funding a genocide thing".
What a fucking disgusting comment
It's almost like Israel and the US are strategic allies and would help each other no matter who the president was.
If you're .ml I'm sure you'll downvote this. I'd be mad if reality was in staunch opposition to my narrative too.
Is that why this zionist piece of shit went as far as to bypass congress so Israel could get its weapons to commit genocide faster?
You are partially right; the nation built on slavery and imperialism will indeed continue to support colonialism until its capitalist government is overthrown entirely, but an openly zionazi pos like Biden makes that support even worse, as we can already see with the ongoing genocide.
Ig you should indeed be mad then.
My narrative is as follows:
Blah blah fucking blah, america has always been an imperialist shit-hole. Slavery and nonsensical governing since the start. Are you shocked by this?
Are you shocked allies back each other? Did you make this same complaint before October 7th or are you just another bandwagon moral-elitist?
Do you think I'm championing this behavior by stating facts? You're delusional mate.
Imagine being such a fucking loser that all you can think of in response to that is basically "nuh uh". You could only come up with adding "Blah blah fucking blah" to that? What a child lmao
Read the comment you're replying to.
Yes, as did anyone with half a braincell. Evidently you're not one of them though.
Refer to the facts in the comment you're replying to.
Yeah, you clearly are.
Yesssss, attack me personally with insults, I love it.
Your stance is so true and rock solid that you're resorting to calling me names including (ironically, considering your behavior) calling me a child when your opinions gets any push back.
Typical.
Removed the "insults" that hurt you so much:
all you can think of in response to that is basically "nuh uh". You could only come up with adding "Blah blah fucking blah" to that?
Read the comment you're replying to.
Yes, as did anyone with half a braincell. Evidently you're not one of them though.
Refer to the facts in the comment you're replying to.
Yeah, you clearly are.
Wait I thought I said I love the insults. Your mask slipped LMAO.
Damn for a masochist you sure do like complaining about the "insults" while ignoring everything else though.
Also, you don't have to go out of your way to downvote, no one's scrolling this low.
Masochist? Complaining? You're either projecting or are a very bad troll.
I said I loved the insults (in lieu of a factual debate) once LMAO. grasp at those straws little piggy.
Typical .ml liberal.
Still waiting for you to come up with anything beyond "LMAO"
You'll be waiting for a good long while. Consider taking up a hobby or something productive for your own sake.
Funny thread, figures you don't actually have anything of substance to say ig lol
Figures you'd be so self centered you think everyone needs to dance at your whim.
Grow up. Lol
Think you've gotten me confused with op? Anyway yeah it's funny seeing libs like you never have anything to back up their worthless opinions
Okay, lib.
Sure lib lol