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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by EndlessApollo@lemmy.world to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Edit I'm just gonna delete this soon. I posted it and made most of my comments while angry and looking for blood. yea a lot of cringe stuff got said on that post but I don't think my post is contributing anything to the sub other than anger, and possibly driving people away. Sorry to the people I snapped at, I hope yall have a good night🐕

The comments are full of people saying transphobic shit and op doubling down on his "making your trans partner feel dysphoric is fine" shit. He'll that pic was a re-upload from one of the mods here. What the fuck!!!! This is fucking 196 why are we out here defending blatant transphobia? People are in there calling trans people karens with a persecution complex, there's tons of defense of treating trans men like shit, "allies" telling trans people they're overreacting, all kinds of inexcusable shit. If this is how lemmy 196 is gonna be I hope this place crashes and burns

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[-] Dee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

he literally admits to seeing them as women-lite.

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Do you have some alt-text I don't see or something? You're not even trying to make a point at this stage, you're just arguing semantics. Apologies if the exact sentence structure isn't to your liking. The dude was just answering a question he was asked. Everyone already admitted that he could've used better word choice, myself included. That does not make him transphobic. You and OP are both being utterly ridiculous to conflate this into something it's clearly not. Nobody was attacking trans people, or specifically, trans men in those comments other than the comments that were already pointed out and addressed.

[-] good_girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you always require context to be written out or is it just in this instance?

To the question "...Straight guy... are you attracted to women.... or to femininity?"

OP answered

I like boobs and pussy That’s the definition of “straight guy” right?

and then answered the follow up question

Would you date a trans guy

with

pre-transition? Sure I don’t like dicks though

If straight men are attracted to women and OP claims to be straight but is okay with pre-transition trans men, he doesn't consider them men.

Is that plain enough for you or are you going to keep flailing around for yet another way to paint anyone who takes issue with blatant transphobia as irrational?

This is also entirely before the conversation about the problems surrounding "women = pussy+boobs and men = penis".

[-] Dee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Ah, so you're missing a ton of additional context to their views or choosing to actively ignore it. That's fine. Means our conversation is over since that's not a position I have any chance of breaking through to. Not that I thought I had any chance in the first place. I guess these rebuttals were more for the lurkers since I knew this was a brick wall conversation from the onset. If you want to be angry at everything then you're certainly welcome to, it's your life. Best of luck with that though.

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