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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Jay Ashcroft flopped when faced with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question

Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s attempt to justify his ludicrous threat to have President Joe Biden removed from the state’s electoral ballot spiraled into chaos over the most basic of questions: “How so?”

During a Monday interview with CNN’s Boris Sanchez, the Republican was asked how he justified his threats to have Biden removed from the state’s ballot in retaliation for recent attempts to remove Trump from state ballots on grounds that his actions in the aftermath of the 2020 election constitute insurrection. The constitutionality of such a removal will soon be reviewed by the Supreme Court.

“What would then be your justification for removing Joe Biden from the ballot in Missouri. Has he engaged in your mind in some kind of insurrection?” Sanchez asked.

“There have been allegations that he’s engaged in insurrection,” Ashcroft replied. He was then met with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question.

“How so?” Sanchez asked, prompting Ashcroft to demand that Sanchez stop interrupting him. “You can’t say something like that and not back it up,” Sanchez countered.

“You interrupted me before I could back it up,” a flustered Ashcroft complained. “Are you scared of the truth?”

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[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 96 points 5 months ago

Isn’t Missouri the show me State? Is this fucktard going to show any evidence of insurrection or just blather on about how other governors have made the claim of insurrection against Biden? My god Republicans are stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid to the fucking core.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 47 points 5 months ago

That's why they attack education constantly. Education prevents conservatives.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Please stop assigning stupidity to things that are openly and brazenly malicious.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

He's brazenly malicious and stupid. You can be both. He is both.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

To be fair, he did look genuinely shocked about the job of Secretary of State.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

The problem here is the ambiguity of "Republicans". If you mean politicians, then yes, they're malicious AF and often pretty competent about it. If you mean their voters, then most of them are just abysmally stupid (and arrogant enough to think they're smart).

[-] numbermess@kbin.social 16 points 5 months ago

Their business is only in propping up accusations, so he's just gonna blather.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Missouri is one of the last and proudest slave states (followed only by Arkansas, Texas, and Florida - go figure?). They routinely slaughtered Kansans for their refusal to brutalize and own other humans. Rush Limbaugh is from there. Ferguson police just shoot black people for sport and openly laugh about it. It's an infected polyp on the anus of racist America with some of the worst, most hateful people scowling and lurching around in it.

That this chud would be representing the people of Missouri is not a surprise at all.

They do have some lovely scenery though, and there are a few decent people there as well. Just - on the political front, you can pretty well expect when you hear Missouri it won't be good news.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

In the top 20 most crime-ridden cities in America, St. Louis, Missouri is #1.

Conservative boogeyman Chicago is #20.

https://sports.yahoo.com/20-cities-united-states-highest-160029176.html

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Finally, something I can speak to, crime!

Most large cities follow the trend where the city center is higher crime than the surrounding areas, because crime is strongly correlated with population density and poverty. St. Louis crime follows the exact same trend.

However, in other places the city center + surrounding areas are considered to be one political entity, the higher crime stats in the city center are "diluted" by the lower crime stats in the surrounding area.

In St. Louis, the city is a distinct political entity from the county. As a result, the amount of "dilution" is much less than in other areas, leading to St. Louis City having an abnormally high crime rate per capita, and St. Louis County having an abnormally low crime rate per capita. If you combine the City + County crime stats, you get a picture that looks very much like all the other rust belt cities (Philly included).

There are other factors as well. For example- St. Louis City is not a residential city- very few people actually live downtown compared to its size, and there is much less night life and nighttime activity compared to other cities of our size. In the 2020 census, just 5400 people lived in the "Downtown neighborhood." This is a commuter area that might have 200,000-300,000 people moving through it on a daily basis. When you look at the crime stats for Downtown on a per-capita basis, they're computed against a population size of 5,400, even though there are 50 times that many people using the area. If Busch Stadium sells out a game they seat 60,000 people- more than 15 times greater than the recorded permanent population of the area. All these effects are true for the larger St. Louis City crime stats as well. The population of the city is only 300,000 or so, but there are 200,000 people or more that commute to the city every day.

And every city is different, criminologists and the FBI consistently and adamantly say that crime stat comparisons across different locations are not meaningful. Despite that, people love to compare crime stats and find out what city is most dangerous or the homicide capitol because they can't stop themselves.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

No. Missouri is the "blow me" state.

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