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New Rule: Everything I don't like is antisemitic (lemmy.world)

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[-] Vytle@lemmy.world 118 points 6 months ago

Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

[-] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of 'semite'. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 months ago

Hamas Charter, excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

[-] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

if you choose to believe that Hamas is not antisemitic that's your prerogative. I only note that so long as there is a hatred of Jews the word is being used correctly.

[-] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hear both (non-settler) Jews and Christians live in Gaza, that wouldn't be possible if Hamas was all about Jew hating...

[-] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Where have you heard Jews live in Gaza?

[-] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews

Israeli Jews is what most people think in this context

[-] uncouthterran@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago

After the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the Jews of Mandatory Palestine became Israeli citizens, and the term Palestinian Jews has largely fallen into disuse and is somewhat defunct, in favour of the modern term Israeli Jews.

It says in the wiki article that they became Israeli citizens. What are you on about?

[-] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

Yet people still claim the label "Palestinian Jew" - are we to deny their claim to belief?

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago

(Different commenter here.)

I've heard there are a few Jews living among the Arab population of the West Bank. I've heard nothing about Jews living in Gaza except for Israeli colonists who have since moved out. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that non-colonist Jews would live in the occupied territories, because they are free to move to Israel by virtue of being Jews.

There is a small population of Arab Christians living in Gaza, and I would assume in the West Bank as well, though I can't recall hearing about them specifically.