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[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 58 points 8 months ago

The fact that letting users choose what software they'd like to install wasn't seen as an fundamental part of a computer really highlights Apple's backwards philosophy towards user experience.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 8 months ago

And the cult followers will foam from their mouths and defend that it's better if you have less choice for some myth of security.

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

I’d say the cult Apple haters are generally more toxic in their language and aggressive in gate-keeping.

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure because the things Apple has done has totally screwed over non Apple users too..

Also, Apple's success basically depended on deceiving the public. The perfect example was the Mac vs PC ads which were designed to mislead people into believing Mac's can't crash and can't get viruses

Another more recent example is iMessage which is designed to lock Apple users into their OS.

The only reason they dropped lightning for USBC even was because of laws

They're boasting about privacy, when literally earning billions from Google for making them the default search (so they're selling your details to Google basically)

Even now, developers are forced to buy Mac's to develop for iOS. So of course many of them will be annoyed.

I even had a apple sales manager scold me publicly when I sold macs (a week before bootcamp was released) that nobody would want to run windows on a mac, and basically implied I was an idiot for doing it. Two weeks later he returned and boasted about how macs could now run Windows. No apology.

Apple is a toxic company (even Steve Jobs was a TERRIBLE person who apparently used to park in the disabled parking every day). There's plenty of reasons not to like them. And thats only a tiny list..

The technical team there I met were awesome.. But the sales side stinks from the top down..

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

My reply was meant to bring attention to the behavior of some community members, not Apple the company. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

Feel free to not buy Apple products if you don’t like them. It’s your choice and I really don’t care.

[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 2 points 8 months ago

"Cult Apple haters" is a goofy phrase and doesn't exist. Maybe people who swear off / boycott Apple, but a cult? Goofy.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Gate keeping by calling out BS and anti customer business practices? Interestingly definition of gate keeping you have.

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Absolutley! Even more “interesting-ly” than that straw-man of yours, friend! ;)

FYI, calling out Apple’s anti-competitive bs is not at all a problem. In fact, many Apple users are plenty happy to do that themselves. The problem is with how haters behave toward the users of Apple products, rather than the company itself.

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

Their argument for "safety" always bothered me, their app store is full of garbage and malware. They just want their 30% cut.

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago

And even if the App Store was perfectly safe, keeping users safe via restricting basic functionality instead of increasing tech literacy is a backwards approach

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Google requires a full reformat to 3rd party apk installs on Chromebooks. That's heavy-handed, cumbersome, and idiotic. But it's still
better than Apple.

It should be as easy as sudo apt-add repository, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install everywhere.

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

Chromebooks are even worse: "Instead of hampering user's computers for safety, we'll make a 'computer' that just launches our proprietary web apps!"

[-] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago

I mean if they want their safety they can feel free to keep it. No need to limit others to the App Store.

[-] ScaredDuck@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 months ago

"What's a Computer?"

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