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[-] syd@lemy.lol 34 points 10 months ago

So keep them in EU but take away their veto rights 🤔 Didn’t knew there was an option like that.

[-] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 93 points 10 months ago

Article 7 suspends their voting rights. Requires unanimity of all other EU members.

It's the closest EU charter allows to evicting a member state. It effectively suspends the state's membership.

Quite frankly the should have. Orban is a blatantly corrupt Putin lapdog who has been siphoning EU funds for years into his own pocket and that of his cronies.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 24 points 10 months ago

Hungary used to have a mutual defence pact with PiS-era Poland that scuppered any attempts by the EU to discipline either country. Not that PiS are no longer in power in Poland, hasn’t Fico’s Slovakia stepped into the role?

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Nope, because Orban's party denies the legitimacy of Slovakia as an independent state via their grievance culture over the Treaty of Trianon

[-] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Fico and other similar politicians are still great friends with orban. Even the Slovak National Party, which is ironic because they were incredibly anti-hungrian bck in the day. But sharing dream of totalitarian country unites.

I bet Putin would lovento get us back into Russian sphere of influence as well and yet Fico and co. still lick his boots.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Have we ever been that close to taking them? I'm assuming he was warned and informed that next time it will happen.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 10 months ago

No, but until now, Poland and Hungary protected each other. Things might change now.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

Slovakia and The Netherlands are the new wild cards. We’ll see how things shake out.

[-] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Slovakia, I don't know, but the Netherlands not really. The one party that might want to veto it, while the biggest in parliament, only ("only") got 20% of the votes. If they get to govern (which is not set in stone yet), they'll have to do so in a coalition with other parties who would not let that happen.

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it -1 points 10 months ago

And Italy, why are we left out? 🤌🤌🤌 Italy is part of the "family" too, with the Nederlands, Slovakia, Hungary.. and the UK of course!

[-] 520@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

The UK isn't in any EU discussions any more...

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My impression of Meloni is that she values the EU?

Edit: not melon lol

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

She does, she isn't doing anything like that.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I get that people outside Italy were worried when she was elected (I was too) but I've not seen any real controversial EU policy from her government. That's from outside though.

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

She immediately reassured european partners, also stood with Ukraine since day one: not obviois on that side of the parliament. So yeah, could have been worse..

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