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The legal fight between Kate Cox and Texas courts over her medical emergency underscores the need for states to quickly clarify their sweeping anti-abortion laws Ariana Baio and Kelly Rissman report

The four emergency room visits, emotional turmoil, possibility of infertility and her foetus’ fatal diagnosis were not enough for Texas to allow Kate Cox to get an abortion, illuminating a major issue with the state’s strict abortion ban: ambiguous language that undermines exceptions to the law.

On Monday, the state’s ultra-conservative supreme court reversed a lower court’s emergency order initially granting Ms Cox an abortion. The court claimed she did not meet the state’s requirement to have an abortion but noted that it was up to a physician to determine when an abortion was warranted, not a court.

The ruling directly contradicted what the Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) and Ms Cox’s doctor argued about the urgency of her case. It also provided little clarity on the state’s interpretation of the law.

Ultimately, Ms Cox couldn’t wait for the court to decide the fate of her body. Her condition was so dire that she ended up fleeing Texas to seek care.

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[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mostly agree; I just mean for those who want to find meaning in it, its ironic that they cannot or will not just directly grasp some of the situations and ever apply it in reasonable way that everyone else can at least not be hurt by. Its not going away so we need to be able to engage with people with or without it.

With respect, I was in sales and one of the important concepts is taking objections off the table. I am not so naïve to believe they actually belive whatever they spout as their justification, it is exactly that (a justification). Kill/shoot first, justify later.

I think its more important to defrock the Emperor, and then move in. That's when they're weakest

Edit: give me 5 minutes with Christian and I can get them to concede the following inescapably:

  1. We are all human
  2. Jesus was/is God made human/flesh and we are made in his image. Even the worst of the worst among us make apparent this basis, however you want to evaluate that
  3. His only law or rule is Love others as you love yourself.
  4. Consequently, the Old Testament is encapsulated and superseded and embodied by the content and natural implications of this revelation.
  5. We are not only covered IN blood (tradition of sin), but most importantly covered BY the blood (grace, salvation, belonging) in the sense of grace and availabillity or receptivity to salvation

*Even if you hate yourself, you should only give your best hospitality to people-based company/others/strangers, like a Good Samaritan. Let's see some of that Southern Hospitality!

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

give me 5 minutes with Christian and I can get them to concede the following inescapably:

While I applaud your attitude, I seriously doubt your ability to make long term changes in attitude with hard core evangelicals.

While they may even agree with the points you made. Once the conversation is over they will revert to their long held beliefs.

An alcoholic will often agree they need to stop drinking and may even do so for a day or two, but that seldom changes the long term reality.

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