So what is the funniest scenario for 2024. I think it would be Biden running with Hillary as his VP, then losing to Nikki Haley with Trump as her VP, running on the platform of becoming the first female president.
It's the dunk tank.
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Democrats have a weird obsession with Hillary, so probably not. They actually think she's smart, likable, etc. They haven't figured out that for whatever "base" of voters she grabs, there is a larger base of "fuck no! Anyone but her!" voters. I would've thought 2008 and 2016 would've proved that point by now.
I get contention on the point of these politicians being "smart" as a thought terminating cliche. I think at some level people feel entirely comfortable not giving a fuck about what I'm saying. Which is to say that if I pushed back about this, they'd dig their heels in on the next point in my hopeless endeavor to change hearts and minds. Kissinger was not 'smart,' the fruits of his labor were millions of deaths. It's been hard to explain how someone being educated at Harvard leaves me skeptical of their credentials. It doesn't matter to me how well spoken Buttigieg is, his rhetoric is empty and his methods are status quo up-keeping bullshit. It leaves this blindspot where libs can't believe nobody else cares that Trump did documents wrong. That doesn't make the people who impeached him his intellectual superiors. Trump's (primary) problem isn't that he was dumb at the helm, but rather that he was ratcheting an austere, fascist ideology while rolling back everything that tried to protect the planet from pollution.
Hillary had a more academic debate than Trump. Do you remember anything she said? Do you remember that time Trump said that if he were in charge, she'd be in jail? She got owned.
Well you would think it would prove the point, but Biden ran like a zillion times and is now president.
It really is incredible that thenlist of people responsible for her loss includes literally every person on earth except her at this point.
The democratic party cannot fail, it can only be failed.
What base would she grab? Everyone who loves Hillary also loves Biden. They are like the same person, politically speaking.
Well, that was most of the purpose of those quotes. She might draw more women that wouldn't vote to go vote, but I doubt it's anything significant.
Idk if thats really true considering the votes Biden pulled that Hillary didnt? I think some of the Obama Obama Trump voters like, or at least liked, Biden but hate Hillary