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That's dumb. I understand restrictions on uncooked meats, but what harm could a cooked chicken breast do? This is what happens when officials blindly enforce rules without understanding the purpose of the rule in the first place.
It's a genuine biosecurity risk in Australia. Australia (and NZ) are very susceptible to pathogens from outside so this kind of thing is taken very seriously in both countries.
A cooked chicken sandwich? And letting in people who've eaten the sandwiches isn't a biosecurity risk? Hmm. I'm questioning the genuineness of the concern.
You probably shouldn't let any people in then.
"Nope, don't worry about that. It's the chicken sandwiches that are the problem."
You should be thankful it's cooked.
If it's undercooked? Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Overcooked? Also jail.
Brah so we should test all chicken breast coming into the country to make sure it's cooked? Who the fuck is paying for that? Or maybe you just don't bring a fucking chicken burger on the plane..
It's a case of common sense. Obviously an accident, obviously cooked. Throw it in the trash and move on with life. You crazy black and white maniacs that think every rule has to be applied 100% in every case with no possibility of anything ever happening that maybe doesn't make sense or isn't the intention of the people who wrote the rule are like 50% of what's wrong with society.
As a German I feel deeply insulted.
I have a feeling the granny probably pissed someone off along the way. I'm sure sometimes it gets thrown away and everyone moves on.
You and I obviously have no idea what happened at the security gate, or the extent to which she tried to argue about it or hide it. I’ve travelled in and made mistakes in the past and the result was a stern ticking off. I suspect there was more to this.
Us crazy black and white maniacs is why Australia doesn't get to enjoy the wide array of pest and dieses the rest of the world has.
Fuck this gandma and her chicken burger. Entitled people like her are actually what's wrong with society.
You can accomplish your goals while not being a dick about it.
You started with name calling and proceed to define others as dicks.
Yes I called the people who charged a grandma $2000 for accidentally bringing a sandwich that has zero chance of carrying avian influenza dicks. Why you're choosing to take that personally is beyond me.
Avian influenza dicks are what I'd really would not be happy to see in a ~~sandwich~~ burger
So you’re ageist too. Got it.
False. We love all chicken sandwiches regardless of how old they are.
No he's right I think I do start to discriminate against chicken sandwiches once they're more than a week or so old.
Oh I see how it is. You're like the Leonardo DiCaprio of chicken sandwiches.
That's what my friends call me.
If you can't tell the difference between raw chicken breast and a piece of fried chicken on sight, please don't ever work anywhere near the food industry.
If you don't know chicken can look cooked on the outside but be raw on the inside please don't ever work anywhere near the food industry.
Who the fuck is smuggling half-cooked chicken breasts for this 'gotcha' of yours? Oh, that's right, no one.
You understand most of risk DAFF is trying to mitigate is accidentally introduction of pests and dieses right?
And I can't fathom how so many people think customs have the man power to check every hamburger passagers may be inclined to hide in their luggage. Unknown and unprocessed meat is a risk, cheapest and safest way to reduce the risk is to ban it.
But you know, you guys continue to enjoy your airplane hamburgers along with rabies, brown marmorated stink bugs, khapra beetles, giant african snails and all the other shit we manage to keep out with strict quarantine laws.
Okay, it is banned. Tell them to throw it away. Don't fine the everliving shit out of them for a cooked sandwich.
That's generally the rule - if you're not sure, declare it, then if it's not allowed, it's binned. There are even signs all over the place through Aus (& NZ) customs saying exactly this.
If you don't declare it and it's found or it looks like you've tried to hide it (wrapped in luggage) then that's when you get in trouble for it.
I've worked in imports for 20 odd years and would have witnessed ABF & DAFF (and their previous 5 or 6 names) seize or hold hundreds of thousands of items. I've never seen a fine issued for a simple mistake, they're normally reserved for when there is deceit or concealment.
A risk of what? And why would that risk not apply to the people coming in who've been eating that meat?
All things that are not typically found in chicken sandwiches...
What risk from meat?? Where the fuck have you been for the last 4 years brah??
I'm still waiting. What's the risk from a cooked chicken sandwich and why would that risk not apply to the human eating that same meat?
Fucking hell you're a thick cunt.
Chicken meat can be contaminated with Avian Influenza. And why isn't the risk the same if a person ate it on the plane... Because humans aren't avian.
The law isn't made around 1 granny and her fucking sandwich right? All different meats contain different risks, the level of risk is different depending on the country of origin, type of supplier ie commercial vs personal use. It's how quarantine works lad.
No shit, that's why law enforcement almost always has some leeway to handle situations on a case by case basis. Lady coming in with a COOKED chicken sandwich from New Zealand? Not a biothreat.
Kind of funny you calling someone else a thick cunt when you're dead set on inventing/wildly exaggerating the existence of a threat.