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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by sourcepie@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

I initially only installed "Comodo Firewall" but for some reason they also installed a "Comodo Dragon Browser", which I did not consent to. I always choose the "advanced" installation to uncheck bloatware, but in this case there was none and when you try to uninstall the browser, they force you to participate in their survey otherwise you won't be able to uninstall the software..

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 76 points 1 year ago

The real question is why you installed sketchy firewall software I've never even heard of.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 71 points 1 year ago

In the early 2000's Commodo was actually a reputable consumer-grade firewall vendor. Like all security software vendors, they eventually became that which they fought against.

[-] tibi@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Create the problem, sell the solution

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Huh. TIL. So why did they fade away?

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Because built in security tools in Windows are much better and free. And enabled by default. Installing 3rd party tools is dumb at the very least.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Especially free ones that aren't FOSS... ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] gens@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait did the Comodo guy also go crazy and kill a guy in Belize?

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Because you're too young to remember a time when Comodo was a decent firewall option for Windows XP.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

Because they already downloaded all the RAM they could so this is the next logical step.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It also had options (framed as "levels" of ptotection) that would make more of those pop up prompts at completely nonsensical times about nonsense things - like declareing whatever you just tried to run was using a global hook. I had virtualdub up and opened windows notepad and it tried to tell me that virtualdub was using a global hook as if virtualdub was a threat.

In all my years in IT thats still im the top 10 dumbest things I've seen in software even all these years later.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The issue and why it wss stupid wasn't that it was a hook, its that it was attributing it to any app you opened when by definition a global hook is GLOBAL - you do users no gppd by scarinh them into thinking every global hool is malware frpm whatever random thing they ran. Those alert even would trigger on windows notepad. There is no reasom amy comnination of iser options should do this.

That was piss poor design and they evenyually walked it ba k after months of defending it by implying users amd security researchers were stupid on their forum, simce deleted. Its not in the wayback machine or I'd show you. Thier "fans" dogpiled on the topic after thier staff replied condesdingly.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not a bug exactly - they didn't think it through. To see what I was talking about you'd need a very very old version. Like way back when it was new. It seemed the that it was the developers that didn't know what a global hook was. They were just very obnoxious about it before finally seeing reason and correcting the behaviour. At the time, it woild fire for -every- global hook. To my knowledge you can mo longer reproduce this, but the reaction they had to someone trying to suggest this wasn't right was enough for me to never go near anything under thier brand ever again.

[-] meisme@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Comodo was reputable for quite a while

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

McAfee was reputable but trash from damn near the get go... Same as Norton

[-] dimspace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

For many years comodo firewall and AV were one of the best, least obtrusive and consistently did well in detection charts etc.

Then I stopped using Windows so no idea what they are like now

[-] sourcepie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seen a quick video about it on YouTube from a reputable Windows security YouTuber. Can't remember which exactly, probably "ThioJoe" or "The PC Security Channel". I wrote the softwares name down a long time ago and decided to give it a try today.

[-] RogueTyre@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That's a mistake, always gotta be updated when it comes to these things and look up recent videos for suggestions instead. If you haven't already, make sure to delete everything comodo related from every nook and corner.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

People are telling me it used to be a big thing in the 2000's. No hate intended here.

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they should've asked you about it first! Duh!

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