this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
157 points (100.0% liked)
askchapo
22771 readers
349 users here now
Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.
Rules:
-
Posts must ask a question.
-
If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.
-
Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.
-
Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
"Violence isn't the answer" regarding Palestine
i'm sure the savage arabs haven't heard of non-violence thanks for letting them know. It's just weird eugenicist shit, because these white people would also be violent had they been born under the conditions of colonial subjugation
The ENTIRE fucking reason America claims it was allowed to exist is that George Fucking Washington and his associates were SUFFICIENTLY OPPRESSED by the British government, to the point where it became permissible to fire 70 caliber lead balls into soldiers skulls.
But black and brown people should just fucking take it I guess
Not to mention, the american revolution happened because the settlers wanted to keep their slaves, keep expanding their colonies and genociding indigenous people, and didn't want to pay taxes on shit. And it's permissible and noble for them to revolt under those conditions
Meanwhile it's bad when Palestinians rise up when they have been refugees and ethnically cleansed for 75 years
That happened a long time ago! We're so much more sophisticated now (no we're not just pulling the ladder up after ourselves).
This also goes with the States. we learned about MLK jr. a lot in school and he "peacefully protested." But we weren't taught much about Malcolm X or Fred Hampton because they were "violent thugs".
We weren't taught that King was a socialist but some classes called Malcolm X and Hampton socialist or communist. Which rolled into how the Black Panthers were "a violent gang" instead of a group of inner city poor people doing mutual aid for impoverished neighborhoods and poor schools.
They didn't even like MLK back when he was alive.
This is a classic cartoon lol.
I'm actually reading Jesus and John Wayne and a lot of evangelicals tried to use him as one of their guys alongside Lincoln and other clearly not conservatives. It's more crazy because as I read this book a ton of it echoes what we have going on currently in the evangelical groups around the country.
Reglious or not, I think it's worth a read so far.
Meanwhile groups like the Italian mobsters get glorified.
Not if I have anything to say about it.
And Palestinians never tried non violent resistance no just want to kill kill kill
Sure would be embarrassing for libs if there was some sort of Great March of Return within the last 5 years where civilian protests were shot with live ammo.
"Violence isn't the answer" period.
It's fine to systematically oppress and destroy people slowly in a system designed to harness their survival drive to sacrifice their labor value but if those people realize what's happening and fight back it's unacceptable.
Also the whole idea of people saying "violence is never the answer" ignoring the entirety of human nature and calling into question why every single nation has a military.
Violence is pretty much always the answer (in an organized, strategic manner. No )
It's a pretty common assumption that if people act antisemitic while fighting back against an oppressor, their struggle should be discarded and condemned by the international community. Thoughts?
When anyone tells you violence isn't the answer, they are either ignorant non-thinkers or they are trying to manipulate you. Throughout the history of the world, violence has always been the answer. This place sucks.
Gestures at the American War of Independence
And that was just the diet version of colonial subjugation.
They got brain-washed by a combination of comfort and "peaceful" eastern religious influence by the likes of Gandhi.