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[-] mustGo@hexbear.net 103 points 8 months ago

the meme: "you're just lazy, right?"
the comments: "how dare you call me lazy, I actually enjoy hurting others"

[-] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 8 months ago

I cant really empathize with animals like how i can people. I hit possums with my car on the way to work all the time (once a month or so). Its unavoidable because they charge into the road and its too windy to move out of the way usually.

If i hit even one person id never live with the guilt and quit my job. Its unfair to expect 1 possum to equal 1 human. I understand you dont expect that. However, how many possums would i have to hit before it was enough for me to care much? It would have to be like when the cicadas come out - piles and piles of them for miles. I just value my husband having nice things more than the lives of those rodents, even though i like rodents a lot.

So the meat industry is basically a giant concentration camp of suffering, but im unsure if the suffering outweighs all the workers it employs, or evsn ths fact that they taste good.

At the same time, their suffering has value. Im excited for clone meat and i eat a lot of vegetables. It could easilly be that i cant empathize with them because of class consiousness similar to poor roman citizens not caring about the plight of slaves.

So, if veganism benefitted my class id be more enthusiastic in becoming a vegetarian instead of just using meat in moderation. It would have to be something about how me not eating meat or doing local activism for animals helps. I cant change society and me not buying meat wont actually help animals.

For example, my local activism was beneficial to people like me because it gave them a support network and community.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago

im unsure if the suffering outweighs all the workers it employs, or evsn ths fact that they taste good.

The workers employed in that industry very often end up with PTSD because of all the horrors they experience every day. Stopping the support for the animal holocaust is the best way to help those fellow workers possibly find a better job in the processing of plant based food, possibly saving their lives.

And yes, the suffering of others absolutely outweighs 15 minutes of sensory entertainment, how is that even a question?

veganism benefitted my class id be more enthusiastic in becoming a vegetarian

My first point already explained why it benefits your class, but I will also add that a vegan diet is the single most impactful thing someone can do to reduce their carbon footprint. So, if your class will suffer from climte change (it will) then going vegan is a necessity.

And also this: Veggie-based diets could save 8 million lives by 2050 and cut global warming

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

My first point already explained why it benefits your class, but I will also add that a vegan diet is the single most impactful thing someone can do to reduce their carbon footprint. So, if your class will suffer from climte change (it will) then going vegan is a necessity.

the idea of the personal carbon footprint is propaganda created by BP to distract from real environmental issues, much like the idea of the litterbug was corporate propaganda created to distract from actually meaningful pollution by industry.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes, the personal carbon footprint is tiny compared to corporations, but that shouldn't be an excuse not to care about our individual impact. Getting people invested in the problem of the climate crisis is essential to get some regulations from our governments. We will get nothing if everyone just doesn't seem to care.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

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