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[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

They are not wrong

The best lies have a bit of truth in them, by making a factual statement and then deliberately coming to a wrong conclusion. They are wrong when the second half of the claim is that Apple is somehow any different. There is tracking and analytics everywhere in Apple systems. They don't need to formally tie the Apple ID to other tracking methods when they can just use other means to find out that two connections come from the same device.

At least in the Android world there at least is the option to go fully free of Google Services. There is no iOS Open Source Project that includes everything but a few things.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee -5 points 7 months ago

You're making huge assumptions based on a single slide that doesn't state it's own conclusion. To me this easily is showing that Apple limits how data is used compared to Google, it doesn't try to show that Apple doesn't track you.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

It’s from 2013 Apple has got way more into ads since then.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

You’re making huge assumptions based on a single slide that doesn’t state it’s own conclusion.

I'm making assumptions based on the fact that it's a slide from an internal presentation. Since it's an internal presentation, it's about displaying Apple in the best possible light to its employees... employees who may think to accept job offers from Google.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Again you’re assuming that’s what the target is.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Again you’re assuming that’s what the target is.

Yes, I literally wrote "I’m making assumptions based on the fact that...".

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Which is 100% speculation on your part. Given this was from 2013 and Apple went on to advertise privacy publicly, it stand to reason it’s more about how they could market their product based on the truth of what they don’t do compared to Google than some sort of employee retention or spin.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Which is 100% speculation on your part.

No, the slide being part of an internal Apple presentation is not speculation at all and going from that verified fact, it's absolutely fair to make educated assumptions based on that. Nowhere it I claim that my comment is 100% fact. You don't seem to get this in your head.

it stand to reason it’s more about how they could market their product

100% speculation.

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