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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)


Summary of televised Abu Obeida speech by The Cradle:

Military spokesman for Hamas' Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida:

  • The occupation's aggression and its perpetration of the Holocaust and massacres are caused by the great pain it experiences.
  • We say to the enemy who repeats his threats of ground invasion on a daily basis, that we are still waiting for him to taste new types of death.
  • The time of selling the illusion to the world about the lie of the invincible army and the supernatural Merkava is over, after we destroyed it in the Gaza Strip.
  • We wait impatiently for the time of your humiliation.
  • The curse of the eighth decade will fall upon them.
  • Be confident, our people, that our victory is coming.
    We renew our call to the honorable people of our nation and the mujahideen of the region to consider this battle a decisive battle, and to rise with us.
  • The large number of enemy prisoners we have has the price of emptying all prisons of all [Palestinian] prisoners.

Note: at one point in Arabic he said

الى الزعماء العرب ، نقول لكم من قلب المعركة التي تشاهدون لا شك تفاصيلها ، اننا لا نطالبكم بالتحرك للدفاع عن اطفال العروبة لتحريك دباباتكم لاسمح الله ، هل وصل بكم الضعف والعجز انكم لاتستطيعون تحريك سيارات اغاثة الى جزء من ارضكم العربية الاسلامية.

Translated:

To the Arab leaders, we say to you from the heart of the battle, the details of which you are undoubtedly witnessing, that we are not asking you to move to defend the children of Arabism, to move your tanks, God forbid. Have you become so weak and impotent that you are unable to move relief vehicles to a part of your Arab and Islamic land?

[-] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

What does "The curse of the eighth decade" mean?

[-] cheese@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Israel is the third Jewish state and in its 75th year, the first two also broke apart in their eighth decade

[-] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I'm showing my know-nothings here but what were the first two Jewish states?

[-] cheese@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not too informed on this either, since I've seen both both Palestinians and Israelis mention it, but the Zionist concept refers to the first Jewish state as the one founded by King David (from the Hebrew Bible) and the second during the Second Temple era (which would be roughly 2100 years ago).

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