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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

Genocide joe really has crammed a huge amount of failure into his 4 year term, and he's not even done.

-complete failure on covid, zero change from trump

-embarrassing defeat by the Taliban on the way out. Obviously that was going to happen after any withdrawal, but hanging all American collaborators out to dry was also really something

-complete failure to both avert and win both the military and economic war with Russia. Nordstream sabotage was effective I suppose

-economic sanctions boomerang on the west and destroy a major ally's economy

-China continues its rise unabated. Turns out sanctioning everyone and everything undermines the effectiveness of sanctions

-Israel caught completely napping, brutal defeat straightaway. That fucking crusader state isn't going to last. Let's see how much more he can fuck it up over the next year

Just fucking incredible

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Also Joe Biden owes us money. Both the rest of the $2000 he said he'd send and student debt cancellation.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Where’s my $600 genocide Joe?

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Im still waiting for my 40 acres and a mule

[-] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

zero change from trump

Nah, change for the worse actually lol

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly I’m not so sure about that. I still think under Biden, the US is coming out stronger than ever.

I have been on the record saying that the US doesn’t need to win wars to maintain and expand its global hegemony, and in fact hasn’t won any protracted war since 1945, and none of this has ever stopped its continued imperial dominance.

The real power of American imperialism is financial in nature, and the key to defeating it is dedollarization. Without the world being able to do so, America continues to win.

Let’s look at what has been happening globally:

The primary goal behind the Ukraine war was to prevent the formation of Europe-Russia-China cooperation. That goal has been achieved, and European financial capital has all fled back to the US while its industries are left crippled. The threat of a powerful EU bloc as a third force that threatens to sway towards China has been eliminated.

By destroying European energy sovereignty, the US oil and gas industry has finally came back from the dead: the US turned from a net oil importer to a net oil exporter country last year, reaping in hundreds of billions of dollars of profit. Meanwhile, the military industrial complex enjoyed windfall profits from the ongoing conflicts.

The US doesn’t care about Russia. Sure, they would like to see it weakened as a competitor of armament and raw resource exporters who has the potential to supply China and the developing world. But remember what I said, the present day US imperialism is rooted in its financial domination, and what Russia does, does not matter for the US so long as the world remains dollarized.

Ukraine’s goal is just to drag Russia into a war to destabilize Europe, forcing them to spend unnecessary amount of resources to militarize (which profited the American military industrial complexes, while the imminent austerity would enable their industrial and financial assets to be carved up by American capitalists).

China is trying very hard to assert economic independence from the US, after decades of deliberate and strategic economic policies to tangle itself with the US, but its weak consumer base (the outcome of this deliberate strategy) has proved to be its ultimate weakness. It cannot afford to decouple from the US without substantial pain, for its consumer base simply could not absorb the loss of Western consumer markets, which means significant downsizing of their industrial production, mass layoffs and ultimately recession.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration continued to leverage the Fed rate hike (10Y US Treasury has gone above 5% now) is destroying the global economy (dollar debt has soared) and like a strong vacuum hose, is sucking international capital back towards the US. Domestically, the raising of interest rates has paid out ~$1-1.2T through interest income channels, mostly to the wealthy, and the effective outcome is that wealth is being transferred from the poor (disproportionately black and Hispanic families) to the rich white families (I wrote about it the other day here) - and what this really means is that the austerity is being burdened by the poor minorities while the gains are being reaped by the upper middle class white demographics, further perpetuating the socio-economic disparity between white and non-white populations in the US.

The ongoing expansion of the Belt and Road Initiatives (BRI) and the BRICS+ formation seem like a good way to decouple from US imperialism, but so far they are proving to be helping to dollarize the world instead of doing the opposite, since the majority of loans are still given out in dollar denomination.

Because the debt in BRI/BRICS+ projects are denominated in dollar, that means the developing countries that have taken on the loans need to find dollars to repay their creditors. Most countries have dollar reserves they use for import, but they have to earn those dollars with their labor and resources first. Meanwhile, America has the unique advantage of simply “printing” them out of thin air - anything for sale in US dollar, America can always “print” the necessary amount and pay for it.

What this effective means is that the US is using BRI/BRICS+ to build a global supply chain for itself while it gets to reap all the free lunches for itself, and the irony is that BRICS+ now has 11 countries to do the job for the US imperialists!

Russian resources sold to China after US sanctions -> China builds component and used it to build infrastructure in an African country -> African country industrializes and make new products -> African country needs to earn US dollar to pay back its Chinese creditor -> African country sells its new products to America to earn dollars -> America is being flooded by cheap goods manufactured by the newly industrialized BRI/BRICS+ countries

Yes, the domestic US industries will be destroyed, but the finance capitalists do not care! America is going to be eating everyone’s lunches anyway, it doesn’t need to make its own!

As Michael Hudson has always said, the key towards breaking the vicious cycle is what the Global Majority will decide to do with the question of debt. Only by canceling debt can we break the dollarization cycle that feeds into the US imperialist ambitions. If the new multipolar world fails to address the problem of growing debt and how to cancel them, it will never be able to replace the US as the alternative economic system, or the so-called “industrial socialism”.

I had a lot of hopes with all the talks about dedollarization last year, but this has proven more difficult than it appears to be. The BRICS summit in August has all but conceded this very uncomfortable truth.

The true battle line of the ultimate US-China showdown, or the finance vs industrial capitalism, is going to be drawn on how the world can effectively dedollarize.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A mildly depressing but really incredible analysis.

I really don’t want to ascribe ideological reasons to something that should have a material basis to it, but

The primary goal behind the Ukraine war was to prevent the formation of Europe-Russia-China cooperation. That goal has been achieved, and European financial capital has all fled back to the US while its industries are left crippled.

European capital watched this all happen in real time and has been saying “thank you sir may I have another” every step along the way. The liberal parties are losing to right wing (or left, in the case of Slovakia) parties that want to reverse course and still they just go on propping up this war. I can’t see how supporting Ukraine and trying to isolate Russia provides any long term benefit to Europe and instead hurts them like you describe. Why make a conscious choice to do this? Why the hell do European capitalists and policy makers have such a love affair with the United States that they will drive themselves off a cliff for them? I’m scrambling for an answer that isn’t rooted in ideology.

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The supporting hypothesis would be that in Europe, finance capital is dominant and international. It's the national bourgeoisie that would be the material enemies of such overt deindustrialization of Europe and I think they're the people you might be thinking of.

A secondary hypothesis is that the national bourgeoisie are backing those other parties because they do see the issue. Those other parties are less favorable towards the US, right? At least, in terms of rhetoric.

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Biden's presidency has been disastrous as far as presidencies go. Makes me long for the days of Barrack "Drone Strike Middle Eastern Children" Obama.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

we love to see it folks

Death to America

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Not just neutral on Covid, but defeated. Every protection has been dismantled for the sake of economy. An economy which admittedly has done fairly well in the usual terms of company profits and the like, but which has been on the verge of recession the whole time.

Other failures: Student loan relief. One might argue failure was a secret intention here, or that what he has done has been a success, but he promised to eliminate student loan, not reduce it somewhat for a lucky few. Also, soon, student loan payments will resume, making the situation much worse for the majority of those in debt.

Unemployment. Altogether too low as far as businesses are concerned. Wage growth has been surpressed, but at the "cost" of more union activity, in spite of Biden, who ran on being union friendly. He's done a few pro-union things, but unions won't readily forget how he kneecapped the rail strike.

The strange truth of it all is that Trump has done more to improve the lives of most working class americans simply by signing stimulus checks. I hardly think Trump set out to help people, but looking back, people will remember having some savings during trump, and bleeding those saving away during biden, despite both of them hating the guts of the working class.

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