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submitted 11 months ago by Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Watched Louis Rossman today, and he's part of the team behind a new app for watching online video content - not just youtube, but nebula, peertube, twitch and more.

adblock already integrated, works amazingly with a quick test on my end - it's an app in the Lemmy spirit

(it's got a paid model similar to winrar, you don't have to pay - but they do want you to - opensource and all)

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[-] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 149 points 11 months ago

basically Newpipe but only source available, not really free software or open source, so they are restricting your freedoms.

Just keep using Newpipe instead.

[-] LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

It is open source but you can't publish modified code (this is to ensure there will be no malicious forks like there was with newpipe)

plus you missed the entire point:

... app for watching online video content - not just youtube, but nebula, peertube, twitch and more.

It's an app that allows you to watch the same creators across many platforms

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 97 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

That’s not the problem. The question is, stopping actors that put ads and paywalls behind modified source, which technically isn’t malicious, it’s just being a jerk and this licensing makes it much easier to take down. Ofc, if he actually wanted it to be open source, he’d just force all derivatives to be non commercial.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works -4 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah, because someone who wants to do that is going to see that and think oh no, he doesn't want us to, guess we shouldn't

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That’s not the point. The point is takedown actions being a lot easier especially if one of the idiots tries to argue against

[-] firesDump@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

The point is, that anyone who tries to make money by ad-bombing the app and adding it to the playstore will be punished. If you post your virus-infected fork in the far-behind edge of internet-nowhere Louis would not care about that. Otherwise: why do you not ask him yourself if you want to post your own fork and under which conditions that should be possible. If you ride principles, then develop your own app that is much much better and FOSS than grayjay. Nobody stops you.

[-] figaro 9 points 11 months ago

I mean, at least in this case he can take down fake copies from the most popular app stores. That mitigates the reach of malicious clones a lot.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 11 months ago

The term "open source" generally refers to the definition by the Open Source Initiative.

https://opensource.org/osd/

Not allowing publishing of modified source code is in violation with the criteria of open source.

[-] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago

FLOSS or die

[-] figaro 2 points 11 months ago

Whew

[-] 520@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It is open source but you can’t publish modified code (this is to ensure there will be no malicious forks like there was with newpipe)

that is not open source. That is source available.
because we all know that license agreements are a line that trojan distributors will not cross. Not malware distribution, not hacking laws, but copyright infringement. They'd never do that at all.

[-] Hate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

because we all know that license agreements are a line that trojan distributors will not cross. Not malware distribution, not hacking laws, but copyright infringement. They'd never do that at all.

I believe it would be significantly easier to submit a takedown request for copyright issues, compared to reporting an app for being malicious.

[-] 520@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's not the case at all. These kind of Trojan operations are fly-by-night setups, and have the advantage of being able to react far faster than the official Devs. By the time you as the dev even know of the app's existence, they've already infected hundreds. And when you do get round to filing a takedown notice, they'll be back up the next day under a different name.

Even Nintendo can't get copyright infringing shit off Play Store in any fast capacity. Heck, Google will even run ads for people blatantly breaking copyright laws.

Edit: and that's before considering that Google won't let them onto play store and being only source available excludes them from eligibility for official F-Droid repos. They're going to have an absolute bitch of a time dealing with fakes and Trojans, even if they didn't release the source code at all

[-] DrQuint@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

...so it's newpipe.

[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You can't search multiple platforms at once with newpipe. This is a bigger thing that you think.

Also it has recommendations

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I could not find a link to the source on the website 🤔 do you know where the source is?

Edit: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay

[-] erg@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

I don't believe newpipe has a way to cast so that's what I'm interested in here

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago

If you watch the video, Louis explains why they only made it source available

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

Have you used it? It's like NewPipe except that it's better in almost every way. The ONLY downside is that it's just old-fashioned open source instead of FOSS.