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I guess not strictly news - but with all of the vitriol I have seen in discussions on the Israel situation, that have boiled down to arguments over wording, I feel that this take from the BBC is worthy of some discussion.

Mods, feel free to remove if this is not newsy enough.

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[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 155 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It's simply not the BBC's job to tell people who to support and who to condemn - who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.

I miss when this was the standard for news. Now most (e: major) outlets don't even try to pretend they have no bias and instead push a subjective point. Even when I agree with the point, I don't like it when my "news" pushes it instead of just, you know, reporting.

Give me the info and let me form my own opinions.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The news in Australia literally adds dramatic music to their edits. They're disgraceful, and manipulative.

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think your confusing a current affair/today tonight with actual news programs. I channel surf from 5-7:30pm and have never heard the main news programs of 7, 9, 10, SBS, nor the ABC editorialise like that in my 38yrs on this planet. At a stretch, they play clips of articles they've already covered at the end with the shows theme song over the top.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting. I see it every time I visit my parents nearly. Doom drama music plays. 'Journalist' creates drama. I recommend John Simpson's book

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see it all the time on aca and TT. Never on the main news shows, like I said, never in my 38yrs of being alive - and for the last 15yrs I've been watching the news between 5-7:30 unless I'm out. I seriously think you're conflating current affairs shows with the news. Current affairs shows are held to a different (read: lower) standards and ethics levels than that of the news. Not to say there isn't any bias or manipulation of the viewer, but they aren't doing it with music. That's aca and TTs domain.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It could well be that. I'll pay attention next time I'm there.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

While us Brits love to complain about the BBC being biased (probably an actual issue for internal UK politics) its good to remember that it's still a world leading media outlet, and one of very few that can be considered not to be push an agenda. (I imagine I can find a lot of people that can probably disagree with that too....)

Even Routers has started editorialising, and I thought they were just meant to be raw facts!

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Pretty much all news sources are good for something, so long as it's outside of their bias' sphere of influence. A fully state run national news outlet can potentially give very unbiased news about events in another country - maybe even better than local news sources - so long as there isn't some conflict of interest.