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[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

At this point I just give up. You make your whole workflow around something and then a week later an AGENTS.md is commited to the repository

I'd still try to avoid it when there's alternatives but damn this is so tiring

[–] valaramech@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The reality is that LLMs are massive force multipliers for a competent dev team. They're largely garbage in other areas, but programming is one where they have clear, obvious benefits when used in a thoughtful way.

It is important to note that there are a lot of load bearing adjectives in those sentences and any usage of LLMs also needs to be weighed against it's clear, obvious societal harms. It's going to take a little bit of time for legislature and society to catch up to technology, but I have some hope still.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

* in a thoughtful way (which most devs are terrible at)

* in the short/medium term (because they atrophy reasoning skills and cut off upskilling opportunities for more junior staff)

* while still having to maintain your skills to catch out the many inevitable issues

* while trying to maintain the morale doing the least enjoyable thing about programming every day - reading someone else’s code

* while managers press you to review more code, more quickly beyond what is possible to actually review

* with dubiously evaluated productivity gains, ignoring tech debt and dangerous lack of whole codebase knowledge

* with uncertain future financial burden as key business pipelines are hurriedly sloppified with no real purpose or plan

* living with the moral burden of funneling money directly into the pockets of deranged American technofeudalists and a Taiwanese fuckboy in a bad leather jacket

Does that cover all the caveats?

[–] valaramech@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

More or less, though I would argue that some of these aren't actually a problem with the LLMs themselves. Specifically, the issues with management and "enslopification". I would also push you to think more on which parts of this are purely your own dislikes - I, for example, actually enjoy reviewing other people's code.

That said, I don't disagree that LLMs are largely being used in ways that are not useful or helpful. However, I believe that time will show those uses as the harm they are. Businesses that went too hard on it will have to spend huge amounts of money to backtrack and some will not survive the endeavor. Aside from the scale, this isn't too different from the crypto and blockchain nonsense that popped up everywhere when those were the hot new tech. A lot of companies will fail and a lot of time and money will be wasted in the process.

I'm trying to have a nuanced opinion about this. I do think that LLMs are pretty bad, but I don't find myself landing on thinking they're entirely bad. Time will tell and I'd actually be pretty happy to be proven wrong.

[–] blibla@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

software quality has been DOWN THE GUTTER on average everywhere even fron teams who try to be thoughtful about it

[–] valaramech@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely. We're still figuring all this out and it's going to take time. I believe that LLMs have a place in the software development lifecycle but where exactly that is depends largely on the project.

For example, I think that open source projects should continue to ban LLM generated code. The barrier to entry and quality of submissions is simply too low for there to be any benefit. Code review, on the other hand, might actually supply some useful findings.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Look at the community name, shill

[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Code is art, and it's just as bad, from a dev who sees the awful AI code frequently enough. Don't fall for the advertising

[–] mamg22@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I understand LLMs provide a boost for devs to write code when used as a completion, but I feel it's a very slippery slope once you start using it, eventually devolving into more work being passed straight through the LLM without much human supervision, so bugs can frequently slip by.

Recently I've been annoyed by lower software estability and I've seen it starts to drop as soon as an LLM is used heavily for development. Recent example: The newsblur android app, it would crash if I tapped on a subscription group, a paid feature I don't have but often misclick. Out of curiosity checked their github and lo and behold, main dev has been using Claude for many months.

[–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's fine to use AGENTS files to waste tokens of slop contributors

Its existence doesn't necessarily suggest the projects uses AI

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah there's is some of those, but a lot of people just don't click to read it