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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been hit by people on Escooters 3 times in the last 4 years.

If you wanna add speed controls to cars fine, but I think the ones that cohabit the sidewalk that people are routinely driving drunk as fuck can absolutely stay speed locked.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where’s the guy that got hit by the vehicles on the right? Maybe there’s a reason that perspective isn’t being heard.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

if you want to add speed control to cars fine

I'm literally not arguing against speed controls on cars. You can tell that by reading.

I'm saying I ALSO appreciate the mechanisms on scooters helping to keep me, as a pedestrian safe.

What is wrong with your brain that makes these mutually exclusive propositions?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never said they were mutually exclusive. I’m just saying everyone is sharing some bad experience with scooters but the other side of the coin has been silenced.

Though I will say that I live in a city with plenty of scooter use and I can’t think of a time it’s been a major issue. Meanwhile cars and trucks threaten my life on a daily basis.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The other side of this conversation has been "silenced"?

This is literally the fuckcars community.

There aren't two "sides". That's my point. Considering them as opposing positions is what demonstrates that you and others are considering them as somehow related, somehow in conflict. It's you seeing an argument where none need exist.

You don't have to un-govern scooters to govern cars.

You can say "I think we should limit the velocity of any vehicle that operates in proximity to pedestrians to a degree to keep them safe".

That's what I want. Where is the argument? Are we on different "sides"??

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

They're implying that people who got hit by one of the other two vehicles in the image are not alive anymore to comment about getting hit by it, hence they got silenced.

[–] Funkwonker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bro the other side is dead. Pull your head out of your ass lmfao