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Apple and Android both followed the same path: Let DIY people do what they want, follow that community let them create wild and free tech on your platforms using your tools for free.
This is how apple started, it's how google started, it's the nature of the early internet and computer companies.
That should give you a clue to what went wrong with the Facebook Phone and Quest. Quest has been against developers for a long time, there's very little support for devs there, because Zuckerberg wanted them to all go make the Metaverse for him (same thing is currently being attempted with Unreal Engine 6 and their metaverse attempt "verso").
I simply steals from people and defrauds/denies and lies about it. That's their approach to the DiY hacker and FOSS developer ethos that made the internet and cool shit we have possible.
Apple? Apple hasn't been open since 1984. Apple is defined by the principle that they know better than you and will go out of their way to not listen and force their customers into their vision.
That's what I said! But if it makes money companies are going to do it.
Yes I'm talking about the start of successful platforms/companies. How they get going, grow and become successful. Not whatever recent apple tech or meta/valve double standard you're on about. But duely noteted, you woke up wanting a conversation about being fairer to corporations and AI that no one else here is having.
Whereas I'm talking about the topic. Zuckerberg trying a top down path to popularizing his tech.
But Facebook isn't a startup. It's not 2001. Facebook was the product back then. Once they had billions, they needed to create new markets to keep growing. When Apple "listened to their customers" they were a $100M company. When they stopped listening and took a top down path to popularizing tech they became a $1T company.
The iPhone was not a bottom up technology created by hackers like Linux.
The Quest is Android. It's more DIY than an iPhone.
The iPhone was a bottom up technology:
Fingerworks iGesture Pad invented by a man with hand injuries who couldn’t use a conventional mouse.
But yeah, we heard you the first time, you love ride corporate dick.
Apple buying iGesture means ground up but Meta buying Oculus isn't? You can't have it both ways.
The iPhone wasn't DIY which was your original claim. It was the opposite. Apple locked down their phone. Quest is Android which you claimed is DIY.
You aren't making any sense.
You think you're in some grand battle for corporations. No one's listening to you. Piss off.
I've already said only you are interested in this discussion. You can fuck off now you addict.