Unpopular Opinion

9315 readers

207 users here now

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!

How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.

If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.

Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)

If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].

Rules:

1. NO POLITICS

Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.

2. Be civil.

Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.

3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.

4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...

Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.

5. No trolling.

This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.

6. Defend your opinion

This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.

Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

founded 3 years ago

MODERATORS

JonsJava@lemmy.world

technopagan@lemmy.world

Dremor@lemmy.world

AI music is objectively good and getting even better and that's a good thing for me as a music consumer. (feddit.uk)

submitted 3 days ago by Iconoclast@feddit.uk to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

229 comments fedilink hide all child comments

I have a very pragmatic view on music: all I care about is whether it sounds good or not. That's it. That's literally it. And from that standpoint the advent of AI music has been a major net positive for me.

You can choose to ignore that and come tell me about the ethics of using AI or how you care about the story behind the song and so on and that's all fine but just note that you're no longer addressing what I'm actually saying here.

I'm also not claiming it's great - only that it's good. I've yet to discover an AI song that I go back to like I do with many human-made songs but if I want to put on a playlist playing in the background then one consisting of entirely AI-made music reliably provides me well above average track after another whereas with organic music I need to sift through a ton of absolute crap to stumble upon the occasional good track that still rarely exceeds what AI is able to output. I can go on YouTube and put on a 2 hour playlist of Jazz House or similar and I don't get the urge to skip a single track.

Currently I feel like where AI still trips is lyrics - they still are only plausible sounding nonsense once you actually start paying attention to it but especially for instrumental music it has far exceeded the level of a good average human artist.

Few examples of what I'm refering to: with vocals and without.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh, it's that essay. I love that essay.

However, Orwell does not actually make the case for this in it:

You can't grasp the concept of personal identity, let alone internalize it and actually have one, if the concept for it doesn't exist in the language.

He certainly makes the case for a lack of intellectual hygiene, like having bad posture, leading to a lack of critical thinking, or clarity, but that's not something I disagree with.

Think of it like this, okay: We haven't invented wave-particle duality yet and I think, like a stupid person, that light is only a wave. How do you explain to me that a person, tragically, does not know what "literally" means, and so also cannot differentiate embellishments? Like, how does that process happen in the mind?

When a mom tells her daughter she was so hungry she ate "literally 50 cheeseburgers," what is stopping this person from knowing about exaggerations? Do they forget? Do they never learn it? What is the actual mechanism?

In 1984, the answer I'm looking for would be the police.

1984 did feature people afraid to use their imagination for anything, but that was not solely the product of language. Some of it was the electric chair.

I just don't like the confusion of Orwell's ideas here—and he might disagree with me, smack me with a ruler and scold me for my lack of 'gerunds'—this confusion of Orwell's ideas with the very normal tides of our linguistic ocean. "Literally" has not actually gone anywhere.