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many AI users are scared of real things (hexbear.net)

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theyre scared of doing their own art because they risk being ridiculed for mediocre tehnique. they vent to chatgpt because theyre afraid of being rejected in early friendships and just want someone to say they love them. they dont go to therapy because 9 dollars a month is way cheaper than 800 dollars. they use AI chatbots for sex because theyre afraid of the very real risks of sex and dont feel like they can get it with a real person. we used to vent online but now post pandemic you risk your shit being posted on a commentary channel blasted to millions of people in your most vulnerable times.

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[–] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's not much of an argument. Are you actually a socialist or are just an unironic campist?

i am making a joke because i dont take you seriously.

Think materially: the average American is so stupid because of a combination of deliberate effort to make the population stupider, and because of conditions that have fostered a devaluation of intellectual skills.

think materially: the human population is set to stagnate at around 10b and will not grow further. responsible governance means accelerating automation in order to take care of a mass of humans who will be elderly and incapable of many things.

LLMs have only made both problems worse. Why do you think things will go any differently in China? And don't just cite that they're socialist so it'd be fine, give me actual material differences that mean LLMs won't have the same negative cognitive effects they've had literally everywhere else.

keep moving the point away from you not valuing the intelligence involved in much of manual labor, including weaving, and the low-lying misogynistic tones of that argument...

you can argue theres cognitive effects from many thousands of things. i drink alcohol and it erodes my critical thinking too, but you don't see many luddites-masquerading-as-socialists demanding this new-fangled technology called fermentation be banned. each new relation and technology creates new ways of thinking. the industrial revolution was proof of that, but did marx say we needed to stop the presses? no, he said we needed to seize the presses for the good of society. any new technology can be used for good or bad, and just because many people misuse a technology it doesn't mean that technology wouldnt have benefits when used by a socialist group.

[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

I'd put in the effort to fully respond to this, but if you're going to misogyny jacket me there's no particular point.

I quite directly acknowledged the fact that there is significant cognitive skill in weaving, literally my only contention was that it was not so nearly as fundamental of a cognitive skill as the things LLMs degrade. And even beyond that I actually do think that people should be learning mind-body cognitive skills like that, regardless of usefulness in modern society (and there are many that are very useful) I just didn't feel a need to make that clear because that's not what we're discussing.

But you're probably not even going to read that, given you've already resorted to misogyny jacketing the removed you're talking to because you don't have a real argument, so like, go fuck yourself.