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I mean, Vietnam didn't happen to children...... But I get that's not your point. However, just because this generation is seeing cognitive development hurdles, does not mean others didn't face their version as well. The largest difference is things like lead have been around for hundreds if not thousands of years. Their reduction marks an improvement to a situation that had been endemic for generations.
Something like COVID or the introduction of screens marks a new impediment that is being laid on top of residual ones that people in the past also dealt with.
Yes, but children had always had those impairment, diagnosis have just been better at catching disabilities.
Yes, based on the hysterics of the news, not scientific consensus.
Again, you are arguing against a straw man of your own making. My examples were based on scientific studies, not news reports.
That's not true according to the latest SCE CREDIT ACCESS SURVEY
Reported application rates for any kind of credit over the past twelve months increased in February to the highest level since October 2022, driven by an increase in credit card applications. The overall rejection rate for any kind of credit over the past twelve months decreased to 15.9 percent, the lowest level since June 2021. Rejection rates fell across all credit types.
That's always been true? Consumer credit card debt is also near an all time high, especially with how popular buyitnow pay later plans have gotten.
Never said it wasn't?
Which still counts as disposable income spending.
US soldiers killed in Vietnam were as young as 16. The average age was 23, so assume roughly half under that. The human brain isn't fully developed until 25. FFS, we didn't let people vote until 21 when the war started. And we only passed the 26th amendment in '71, directly in response to the contradiction between enlistment and elections.
I'll spot you COVID, at least for the specific cohort that hit their prime learning years during the shutdown.
But the introduction of screens? We've had screens since the 1950s. And, I gotta throw back to XKCD on this one...
The introduction of keyboards has been an enormous boon for education.
And in a largely agricultural or early industrial economy, it hasn't been a serious issue. These only truly become classified as "impairments" when they interfere with a very specific kind of intellectual labor.
So we had a four year long dip and we're finally caught back up?
There is no elasticity in these budget items.
Yes, but you aren't interfering with a child's ability to learn which is what we were discussing. At that age cognitive function that is typically affected by PTSD and high levels of stress is impulse control and rational control over your emotions.
If you cared to read the study you would have learned that they are specifying passive activities. Playing games that actively have the user engage with thought is fine, what is harmful and is a growing problem is passive participation. Where the only thing you do is just swipe to the next piece of entertainment .
If you would have bothered to read the source you would have known that this comic doesn't have anything to do what we were talking about.
Again, what does this have to do with your argument..... We do not live in an agrarian society.
No, we've been growing in debt and access to debt since the crash in 08, in 20-21 we saw a two year lull due to the pandemic. Since the end of the pandemic we have seen the most aggressive rebound in history, largely spurred by inflation and post pandemic spending.
That is not relevant to the current argument.
Drafting a kid out of high school and putting them on a 12-month tour of duty absolutely interfered with their education. Even if they never see a day of combat, they're still doing some menial work that allows their accrued educational experience to atrophy. Same as what happened during COVID.
They are specifying interpersonal communications through text.
How is this "passive"? None of it involves "swiping".
That public reporting on learning difficulties only became interesting when students were educated to the level at which the difficulty was relevant? It goes directly against the notion that the current generation is in a unique situation.
It is extremely relevant.
They never drafted anyone out of highschool. Less than 2k people either illegally volunteered to deploy or deployed with their parents permission. Which means they were choosing to end their education. It's not great either way great, but it wasn't event that happened to them, nor does it match with any sort of scale we've been discussing.
I was talking about the study I linked, not yours.
During the transition from agriculture to industry of course there weren't any interest in studies about learning difficulties, there weren't even studies..... I never claimed that idea of cognitive imparments is new, just that it was a new event that caused imparments.
Care to extrapolate?
Plenty of 18-year-olds were drafted during both Korea and Vietnam. Since deferment expired once you were no longer enrolled, this meant anyone who couldn't get into college was fair game.
And I rebutted it with my own.
So it would not be interfering with their education......as you would be out of highschool and not in college.
That had nothing to do with my claim..... Do you understand how arguments work? Or is your reading comprehension just that bad?
My claim was based on screen time with passive engagement was bad for children. Your rebuttal was a source concluding active engagement was beneficial. Those two statements do not conflict with each other.
Education doesn't end the moment you step out of school. Anyone who has held a job knows this
Childhood education does...... Which is what this conversation was about.