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[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn’t even say it was a good idea. Like the end to end NAT free internet is the ideal. IPv6 was built for that.

Even if IPv8 was not slop it would reenforce the idea of nat and hierarchy.

IPv6 allows for a democratized internet where anyone can choose to self host. And anyone can connect to anyone who is self hosting.

Because of this it’s a bit more complicated. But ideology it much better than IPv8. It brings us back what made the internet great in the 90s and 2000s, but at scale.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I really like how ipv6 works; the downside is it's way more complicated for humans to understand. But then again all of networking gets complicated fast. I still don't really get what a CGNAT is.

[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

How is IPv6 harder to understand? It's just IPv4 with all the uncommon stuff stripped out and put into optional headers (which IPv4 also has), and a much longer address now written in hex.

CGNAT is just a fancy term for NAT done by a carrier. They get a special private IP address range for doing so, but fundamentally it's still NAT.

Now IP multicast, THAT is complicated for humans to understand. Especially the whole subscriber logic.

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably true...but I just don't see it taking off...

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

IPv6 is now peaking over 50% of all internet traffic globally and trending up. IPv4 is today the minority of internet traffic.

In some countries like France IPv6 over 85% of all internet traffic. In Germany over 75%. USA 57% of all traffic. India 76% of all traffic.

Not a fan of Google but they keep statistics on adoption.

https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I literally just got the notifiation from Verizon today that IPV6 was now supported by their network... Ubiquiti asked me if I wanted to enable it, my response is basically not until I understand it...

Then again, it took me 20 years to really understand IPv4, so it's likely I'm going to be decaying before I get v6. ;-)

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

my response is basically not until I understand it...

That was probably a good call, firewalling and (lack of) DHCP especially is quite different so just trying to use v4 concepts on v6 addresses/networks is almost a guaranteed bad time

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Have faith in yourself. I bet you could get things in a few hours with focused study if you have a deep understanding of IPv4.

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

LOL....my ADHD has gotten much worse with age... "Focus" is a fond memory. ;-}

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Ok. Then a week of passive absorbing at worst. You got it. IPv6 is more complicated but not that much more complicated. You already now IPv4.