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I remember Reddit used to have the ability to show both upvote and downvotes. I miss that feature.
Lemmy has this feature which is really nice... -20 points doesn't show +20 and -40. It mentally feels a lot better to know that 20 people agreed with you even if more people disagreed
I often wonder if that is the reason Reddit dropped it, to make controlling and influencing the user base easier? A joke example, seeing +100 to -99 votes regarding the sacrilege or glory of pineapple on pizza is a lot different then just +1 or -1
Reddit's shadow ban system is another part of why I don't trust them. Plenty of times I've seen posts where metadata says there are multiple comments but instead its empty without even the
[deleted by reddit]trail. Could be just their distributed database taking its sweet ass time to become consistent or maybe those people are on some sort of shit list?For myself I know I keep saying something that results in me getting some extra attention from an LLM because I keep getting sub 30 second instant bans and warnings for ambiguous comments that sound threatening but aren't. I lost a 20 year old account because of the comment "We should never have killed that fucking bear" being determined as advocating violence.
Also makes it easier to fudge vote totals in order to promote content they want to force on people. Now they just need to increase one number, rather than trying to give it a believable number of upvotes and downvotes.
I kept getting shadow banned constantly. My comments ending up with 1 view no up or down votes. For completely arbitrary reasons as well. And I got completely banned from a few communities by accidentally using extremist terminology (?).
And yes I don't doubt they removed it for a reason, it makes it a much less friendly place. Like you're putting down and directly affecting the other person rather than just disagreeing. It's hard to explain.
This is my third account in the piefed/lemmy universe and the experience feels a lot like the years immediately after Digg imploded but before the incident with the first censorship revolt (I forget what that was even about). That's when the first big change to the "Hot" algorithm was made that made it easier to moderate but also made the site more stale.
Thinking about what that website was like then vs now is more than a bit depressing actually. I knew a handful of the original reddit dev's at a professional level after meeting them at a couple PyCon's. Still have a couple of the Reddit stickers they would randomly hand out to people. I don't think I ever met Aaron in person but I talked shop with him a lot about the python framework he had made. Bleh.
Out of curiosity, what's the purpose of multiple accounts?
Identity management and security.
So this username is DevDave but hilariously there are about five (down from seven) different David's fighting over this handle. It's hilarious because as soon as one of us signs up with this handle to a new service, we send a friend invite to the others as a not to subtle "First!" with both middle fingers. Yes it does narrow things down from ~8 billion to five, but since we are all in tech and are interweaving its hard to know who is actually who and it creates an interesting level of chaos. Otherwise this my random bullshit account and I don't type anything here I wouldn't say out loud in public.
The others are more isolated/specific due to reasons.
That makes sense. I kind of just assume everyone can find out my identity if they try hard enough. So my infosec is as if I'm speaking to a stranger on a nearby train. They could probably follow me home but I don't give them a reason to and I don't say anything incriminating.
Same. Pretty sure it's because I was using a VPN. Gave up on it a while ago; haven't looked back.
The astonishing part is how they manage to both be overly heavy-handed on moderation and STILL keep floating a fuckton of racism and other bigotry to the top.
The racists don't block ads
That's similar to how I learned about Reddit's stance on punching Nazis.
Terrible news: you actually can get the breakdown, including who voted up or down.
I don't see a problem with that. I don't personally care who specifically voted for anything, but I also don't mind if someone knows I was the one who did it
Also, +10 & -10 is a lot better than just "1". The former is controversial while the latter is lack of engagement entirely.
Nice
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It is possible to see those numbers, it's just super janky. If you click on the upvote count in a web browser, a tooltip pops up showing the breakdown of up vs. down votes. Usually... well, sometimes. It helps to zoom way far in and hit it exactly in the center of the number.
I miss Lemmy's better UI presentation of things, and also its vastly superior searching, but otherwise PieFed seems better in every way.