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Unfortunately people these days insist on being able to connect their phone to the car and use sat-nav, basically a car without that is almost unsellable in the current market. They could probably swap out the module with Chinese chips with one made in USA... If anyone even produces one?
Edit, I can't reply to all of you dumb fucks telling me what we already know about connecting a phone to a car. 1) GPS enabled sat-nav with live traffic updates does require an internet connection. And 2) I don't think Americans really understand how thoroughly your government has fucked you over; the restriction on domestic wireless communication doesn't need an internet connection, it applies to any wireless communication even if theoretically it cannot be connected to the internet (don't believe me, read the law).
CarPlay/Android Auto doesn’t require a modem in the car. Your phone already has a modem in it.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/01/16/2025-00592/securing-the-information-and-communications-technology-and-services-supply-chain-connected-vehicles
Carplay is also banned. The rule is fake, it's just pretextual to ban Chinese cars so it will always be stretched to cover any possible Chinese car. The US forced free trade on everybody assuming it would always win, and now that it's losing it's just cheating. It needs to stick some kind of bullshit technicality on the treaty violation so it can abuse WTO procedure to loop this case around through appeals for 30 years before China can get a final ruling against the US.
It may not need one for those products, but I promise it has one anyway.
Internet connectivity in a car should be opt-in with a simple mechanism to enable/disable. No calls to the manufacturer, no dealer trip, no app.
You don't understand, read my post
You don't understand, we don't need the car to provide a cellular modem to collect data on us. Our phones already provide that.
Correct, the manufacturers want the car to have a cellular modem to collect data on us.
GPS didn’t need any form of cellular connectivity for the first 15-20 years it was in cars.
In fact it hasn’t changed in that requirement, and screen mirroring also doesn’t need spyware.
Still works great on your phone with no internet if you precached the maps for the area you'll be in.
Yeah, have an old Tom Tom kicking around somewhere that's over 20 years old, I think. Worked great, you just needed to plug it into a computer every once in a very long while to update the maps. I mean, roads don't change THAT frequently.
You don't understand, read my post
For GPS, if the phone has connectivity, the car doesn't need it. It just needs to interoperate with the phone.
As for telemetry, it is of almost no benefit to the car owner, it's a way for the manufacturer to aggregate and sell data. If it's just maintenance-related diagnostic logging, local storage on the vehicle would suffice, and it should be law that such data belongs to the owner and that there should be a way to delete it at any time if the owner so chooses, with no detrimental impact on dealer service charges or the warranty.
Looks like I've found another victim of the American education system.
Literacy rates must be at rock bottom there.
You're gonna look really stupid when the Slate truck sells well.
By the way, your edit is disingenuously moving goalposts.
Your gonna look really stupid when you find out it has built in telemetry.
It doesn't, except for an optional add-on aimed at fleet operators.
I totally believe you. The American education system really is fucked isn't it.
You're citing something that absolutely doesn't require the car itself to connect to the internet.
I can do all that in my car and it has no network connectivity, have you not heard of a cellphone?
You don't understand, read my post
You don't understand, read my post
I did read your post, it was dumb.
Or provide a module for plug in for your sales region.
That's my point, I don't think there are currently any companies in the US, outside of defense contractors, that produce a module. It is impossible to comply with the law.