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i was under the impression that were explicitly against genAI but i found that some people are actually VERY pro genai and quite dismissive of its risks. this happened on lemmy but i saw people getting downvoted for saying that genAI in its current state is harmful to the environment. i saw the old bullshit of how ”i use AI for art because i cant draw”, it was crazy. i called someone a Promptitute and someone unironically told me not to say that, just so much. so can everybody pls affirm you dont support that crap.

another user straight up admitted that they use AI as a friend and to gn to... i dont care how much we have in common ideologically, i cant support you gning to chatgpt and thinking its your friend...

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The luddites WERE wrong though, destroying machines instead of seizing them to utilize their productivity gains to benefit the peasantry. They were petty bourgeois jet ski dealership owners in terms of where their ideology took them. They had valuable handicrafts which industrialization threatened, so they tried to destroy industrialization to protect them, benefiting no one but themselves and their direct communities which benefited from their local artisanry and i don't even know for how long because obviously they just kept building machines

Imagine an alt history Britain where the luddites seized the machinery, seized weaponry, expropriated the landowning class at gunpoint, and we got industrial communism a century early from within the heart of the British empire

In that context imo the luddites look like proto Fed shit, like if the British government had the foresight we have looking back i think it was very advantageous for the movement to focus on destroying technology to protect artisan wages, rather than the alternative of an awakening of proletarian and peasant class consciousness and solidarity, using seized machines and their output for the benefit of all

I mean, imagine the propaganda win for communism if rather than having to wistfully dream of a world in which modern industrial output could feed, clothe, and secure the lives of us all, Kropotkin only had to write about how it had already occurred within his lifetime, in the heart of the world hegemon.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, Luddites suck because they failed to stop their own proletarianization. Their efforts were doomed because non-Luddite workers were still installing the machines. It's a form of commodity fetishism. Instead of seeing those machines as products of labor with workers behind them that could be won over, the machines are merely seen as static objects that the bourgeoisie just willed into existence somehow. Had there been a critical mass of workers who refused to install those machines, the machines would have disappeared.

Had there been a critical mass of workers who refused to install those machines, the machines would have disappeared.

the machines are a good thing and workers refusing to install them would have been a bad thing though

You've got a machine that can clothe the entire country on its own. It's bad because some guy owns it. You're saying they should have destroyed the machine. No, kill the guy. Free people from deprivation and tedious drudgery. Like, what