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Republicans urge the ignorant to ‘just say no’ to science
(chicago.suntimes.com)
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They see science as an antagonist belief system to theirs. They don’t understand what science is and they don’t want to.
Isn't science just a prediction and utilization of observered phenomenon? Original sin is obtaining knowledge, aka don't question. It's so dumb
Yea, I explain it to the lay folk as a tool for understanding our world, not a system of belief. However to most of these people ignorance is purity, so it’s an affront to them regardless.
Original sin is gaining knowledge of only good and evil, and what the difference is. Eden was a paradise of amorality where humans could live without worrying about whether an act was good or evil. They would have been wild animals living on instinct, doing whatever felt pleasurable, and avoiding things which cause anguish. Instead, they ate the fruit and became ahsamed of all of the things they'd done, even of simply being naked. Then God cast them out for disobeying him.
It had nothing to do with knowledge in general. Original sin was disobeying God. You should understand the myths you're mocking.
I'm sorry, but to me this still comes across as punishment for gaining knowledge, because that was what was forbidden in the first place. They were punished for disobeying what? - The prohibition of gaining knowledge.
It can certainly be interpreted in a number of ways, but I think you're missing a key element of the story. Humans gaining 'knowledge of good and evil' is the process of humans becoming self-aware. Rather than simply unselfconscously being what we are without judgement, we sort our behaviors into good and evil. Suddenly they know they're naked, and the question they're faced with isn't 'why do you care that you're naked?' but 'who told you that you're naked?'. Animals are naked too, but they're not aware of it because they're not hung up on the mortality of their own actions.
It's not so much, to my reading, that there's an active decision being made to kick them out as that they're no longer capable of benefiting from it. Their self-consciousness itself prevents them from being able to continue to enjoy that primordial state of being before the need to second guess themselves.
It represents the loss of human innocence. It's not that they did wrong and were punished, it's that they came to view the world in a way that's harsher.
I agree with your interpretation completely. I definitely prefer viewing it as a metaphor and I think you've explained the metaphor perfectly. My former reaction was triggered by @CrayonRosary's sentence "Then God cast them out for disobeying him." I thought I would try to review their more literal interpretation from the same point of view as them – I find it to be an interesting excercise that can lead to better understanding.
"BoTh SiDes ArE thE sAMe" - Half the posters on reddit and lemmy.
From the time they're born until the day they die conservatives are taught that intelligence is a sign of weakness and that the only right answer to and problem is unwavering ferocity.