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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Pre-2010 social media still had issues. It incentivised likes and views, which then social media companies capitalized (literally) and then it became a terrible feedback loop. The desire for likes/views is deeply coded in our psyche and can't change that.

The problem is and has been humans.

[–] keimevo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's why I said less negative impact.

And we can't change human nature, but we can force social media companies to change.

[–] SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or just make new social media websites that are similar to the pre-2010 websites.

[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem is and has been humans.

Well, yeah, but unless you're suggesting we exterminate the species, the answer must be regulating the way we interact with each other, like the person above suggested.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I have to hear one more fucking second of some random fuckwit on tiktok, I'm voting for exterminating the species.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you hate tiktok so much why are you being exposed to it on a regular basis? I have never once opened a tiktok link intentionally, probably for similar reasons that you dislike the service, but that hasn't been very hard to do.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

My coworkers are smooth brains. I don't have to open it, or have it installed. I hear it in the break rooms, I hear it at the exit computer, I hear it on downtimes.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Social media is older than likes and views. Usenet for instance is older than the Web.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I never had to hear 4x speed laughter, 2X speed music, then 8x speed explanation of something that happened to them that literally only matters to them until tiktok existed. It's so prevalent for mush brains from teens to late GenX that it makes me want civilization to end. It triggers my ADHD like nothing ever has in my lifetime. Like if I can't handle that shit, who can?!? Banning that app was the one thing I wanted from the first term.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

usenet is not social media.

Also RIP usenet. It is long gone.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Usenet user count has never been higher than it currently is, and it very much is social media. What changed is that AT&T and others stopped including Usenet access as part of your Internet plan several years ago so it got a little harder to get to but not impossible.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In what universe is Usenet social media? Seriously?

Usenet is dead. Gone. What remains today is just a shell game of corporate owners. It is nothing like what it used to be.

Next thing you know you will try and tell me Lemmy is social media.

[–] keimevo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lemmy isn't social media? Given that it is mostly a federated reddit clone, I would argue it is. Probably even more social than reddit considering that reddit has now more bots than people, unlike Lemmy (at least for now), and I think that a platform full of bots talking among themselves is not really "social".

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -2 points 1 day ago

It's only a r***it clone because the largest instances are at best reactionaries who market themselves as "progressives." And before anyone gets offended, consider how quickly most users are quick to ally with known Zionazis (🐐) before actual leftists.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I disagree. It's missing everything that makes social media, social media.

Its anonymous. No self promotion. No actual socializing. No controlling body, and rarely even media. No monetization.

Reddit was a link aggregator. They kind of socialized it with adding media uploads, and some people try and use it that way, but it really doesn't meet the criteria either.

Just like a bbs and Usenet were conversational, and in some ways a bit social, neither were "social media". And Lemmy isn't either.

This term comes from companies pushing to monetize and unannonymize people. Facebook, or back in the day certain parts of AOL.

Lemmy and reddit are link aggregating forums. We call them forums!