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Where did they say that's all it was?
Then tell me what benefits I'm supposed to enjoy. Because representation apparently isn't on the table.
That's because you have to show up and show up in numbers. Too many on the left cry about not having a perfect candidate, don't show up, and then wonder why the Dems keep going right when the left doesn't show up. Then, surprise, they have no representation and throw away 20 years of progress.
I don't care for Biden or trump, but I wasn't dumb enough not to see where we are right now before the vote was cast, so I showed up. So many stayed home that trump got elected with the popular vote despite not getting many more votes than he did last time.
But hey, we didn't vote in the woman who had some bad policies and could be worked with because one bad policy was worth throwing everything away. So we got the country we collectively voted (or sat out) for
We do though. We were roughly a third of the voters in the 2020 Democratic primaries and that number has probably gone up.
You don't show up in the general, so primary participation is a participation trophy. Trump wasn't on the ballot, so that's pretty much meaningless in the concept of defensive voting or the actual subject of the conversation. When Trump was in the ballot, the left was comparatively absent. 6.25M fewer people showed up, so objectively they didn't show up.
I'm not knocking participating in the primary, I do it every time I can. But if that's the extent of 'showing up, you're not doing much more than telling yourself you participated so you don't feel guilty about it.
That would mean Biden won the 2020 general election without us.
Gee, I guess showing up once makes up for the election on either side.
I guess the better statement is you only show up when convenient. Which is the same compliment I hear from the left about the Dems lol
I'm not following you. First you said we have to show up in numbers and I told you we do show up in numbers in the primary. Then you said we have to show up in the general election and I pointed out we did. Now you're saying that's not good enough. Either you're moving goalposts or you're doing a shit job of explaining yourself.
Spell it out for me plainly. Tell me exactly what we would have had to do since 2008 in order to be represented.
Nah, I'm sick of filling in every possible edge case in your argument. You say you show up, but you're making a point to point to specific/conditional situations yet ignore the blindingly obvious answers of why you don't have the representation you want.
Show up and vote consistently and change can happen. As it is, I tire of listening to people complain about lack of representation when they choose not to vote for a viable candidate in the general when they had the opportunity to do so because they didn't line up 100%.
If that's not clear enough for you, you're beyond my help.
But as we've already established, we did vote for a viable candidate in the 2020 general election. Do you think we lined up with Biden 100% back in 2020? It really seems like you're the one missing the blindingly obvious answer.