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Look, he's a piece of shit, but you can't just believe lies about him because he's a piece of shit. That's not how it works.
I don't. Those are the things he has admitted to. I'm just not going to read the obvious hit piece.
Okay, then why are you getting on my ass for calling the obvious hit piece what it is?
Because this forum currently has too many people saying "I hate the guy but you should vote for him as harm reduction" and that's obvious horseshit. He's a naked imperialist running in the Zionist democratic party, there's no way that his sole good foreign policy position survives the first five minutes and it's fucking exhausting to watch. Apologies if that's not your position but I am so goddamn sick of watching ostensible communists defend a man who says America should "stop fighting stupid wars that don't benefit us" (ie, start fighting ones that do). It's revolting and honestly shouldn't be allowed in a supposedly anti imperialist space.
I have not seen a single instance of someone saying to vote for him. How many of us even live in Maine lmao.
None of us live in Maine, nobody lives in Maine.
irrelevant. Anybody who defends him is a social fascist, regardless where they live on the planet.
What's really irrelevant is the state of Maine and everyone in it.
It's what I think every time this comes up.
“Maine could have this weird fashy socdem guy in office. I hope he does more good things than bad, but hopes are low. Maine is all the way over there. American politics is weird (and fashy), nothing new under the sun"
0.4% of the US population, still gets two senators because the Senate is a fundamentally, intentionally antidemocratic institution.
I've seen some... Possibly exaggerating it in my own mind because of how upsetting it is.
I guess maybe it's because I'm an old fucker but like I just don't get invested either way and I hate seeing people at one another throats over this shit that absolutely does not matter. Is he maybe less bad than the even more fascist he might replace? Maybe who fuckin knows. None of us even live in Maine except like maybe two users on the site. This shit is tiring and not worth all the animosity it is causing.
I'm no spring chicken either (mid 40s) but as I've aged I've also been further minoritised, which might be why I'm less likely than ever to compromise on this shit. It's not minor, this guy guarded the torture prison, went overseas to murder poor brown people multiple times, and his only problem now is that he feels like he didn't get paid enough for the mass murder. It honestly feels like the worst kind of troop worship. I get where you're coming from, but we don't allow other fash apologists, y'know? I thought that was a matter of principle. Where do we draw the line?
Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. Idk if cyborgmarx has explicitly stated that you should vote for him but at the minimum has expressed that him winning would be the better option
Oh no, by all means I hope the utlra-zionist Susan Collins wins her senete seat and the cracker Platner dies in a house fire. I'm following the party line on this one
Yeah that’s exactly what I meant. You are doing the classic lesser of 2 evils. And this probably doesn’t mean anything but I have nothing personally against you I was using you as an example about what the commenter said wasn’t true. But again that probably doesn’t mean anything since I definitely showed my stance
I did say you never actually advocated for voting for them if that’s what this is about Edit: I guess my wording was a little vague since I said I wasn’t sure
It's just so not worth arguing over imo. I for one think having him win would be better if only to prove to libs that gaining x amount of senate seats still changes nothing and to prove that electoralism is a dead end.
It's definitely not worth all the people spitting venom at each other over.
Good. There is nothing wrong with saying that an ultra-zionist should lose their seat in theory, but advocating for people to actually vote for their only viable challenger is evil and unprincipled