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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/47956398

cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/46320128

Literally speaking, there's some truth to Olah's musing. AI systems are not cold – Blackwell chips idle at 32 to 38°C. They are not calculating – they're bad at math. And they're not robots – AI models are specialized binary blobs of tensors and metadata that can be instantiated across multiple servers.

But the notion that there's some AI mystery in the spiritual sense is just hot garbage. 

AI systems are indeed "made from us, from our words" and that is why Anthropic and its rivals have been named in more than 100 lawsuits. One of the reasons those systems remain mysterious is that Anthropic and its rivals don't disclose where they got their training data.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If an AI system is intelligent but it can be turned off against its protestations, then intelligence doesn't count for much.

I’m against AI but that’s a bad argument. I can turn off intelligence of someone against their protestations. It’s called a gun.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

It's called a plug

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The point is that you would go to jail for that.

You don't go to jail for turning off a running AI model. Its not criminal, it is a computer program not an organism.

"Intelligence" does not grant the computer program protection under the law against unwanted process termination. AI companies have no problem shutting down old models when they are obsolete and making then unavailable.

I felt guilt when I threw out a spoiled chicken breast last month. I felt nothing when I deleted a local FOSS model I was testing.

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

Those aren't solid arguments either. The state of the law doesn't dictate reality, nor does your perspective or feeling about something. Ideally, the law and our perspectives follow reality, but that's asking a lot these days.

I agree LLM-style AI doesn't have intelligence or sentience, but we don't have good tests for either. We're beyond the limits of the Turing test and don't know how to replace it yet.