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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is why my e-mail isn't gmail and I never store my shit in somebody else's cloud.

Way back when they were starting offering free e-mail and later cloud services it was an obvious risk, because putting one of your main points of contact and only copies of data which you can't get back in the hands of a massive company with whom you don't even have a proper contract and which, besides, has more lawyers than the year has days, is a needless risk.

Same reason why none of my code that's important is in GitHub.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As soon as the cloud thing started, I thought "Who thought this was a good idea?" Especially when they were trying to get The Cloud to basically replace a computer's hard drive.

No thanks, I'll hang on to my own stuff. I can put my important stuff on a couple of thumb drives, and carry them around.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The only thought I had was that with scalability and redundancy your data could be reasonably safe and reasonably accessible, however over the years shit like this keeps happening.

The only way I would use cloud storage is if I sent it already encrypted data

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Using somebody else's cloud for scalability and redundancy is reducing one risk vector by increasing a different risk vector.

It makes some sense to use a cloud service of a company which is around the same size as your own, with whom you have a proper contract in a jurisdiction where it's legally enforceable in a timely manner and even then you're now taking in the risks associated with them going bankrupt.

I avoided that kind of situation exactly because having worked in IT already for almost a decade when this kind of thing came out, I had already some experience with what can happen if one puts oneself at the mercy of a 3rd party entity for whom even your business isn't worth much (either because you don't even pay or because you're a tiny, tiny customer).

That is way more so when we're talking about having an important point of contact with the outside world like one's e-mail address under control of such a 3rd party entity (e-mail, like phone numbers in many countries, should be something you can take with you from provider to provider, but we're not there yet and may never be given that unlike with phone numbers, it would require a transnational regulatory agreement, which almost certainly will NEVER happen). Personally for my e-mail I DO use the mechanism were due to regulations I can move the core element around with me from provider to provider - I have my own Domain Name and subcontract the e-mail support to a 3rd party.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

I understand that my use is much lighter than some. My stuff is mostly documents, and some graphics and photos, so it's no big deal. Some people have tons of data and stuff, and/or they travel around and need access to all of it from all over the world. The cloud is handy for them.

That's not me, but my little bit of data is just as important to me, and I'm not leaving it in the hands of some third party who doesn't care at all.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What are people who are not tech wizards supposed to use? Most people use gmail or if your old, Yahoo because that's all they know how to use

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

Just because they arent tech wizards doesn't mean they're tech cave people

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Getting e-mail hosting complete with your own domain name on one of many, many companies available worldwide which sell that (just search for "e-mail hosting") does not require tech knowledge to the level of "wizardry".

They even have interfaces similar to Google.

However those things are paid, and they're definitely not as accessible to non-techies since for example your smartphone won't just pop-up an "add account with X e-mail hosting" during initial config.

Absolutely, those things aren't "so stupidly simple that even my dog can use it", but then again I'm making my point in Lemmy to a crowd which is well above average tech aware, not to my nana on Facebook.