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2x only? At 35? How does that help with retirement? Sounds FAR too little.
I think the expectation is that you will retire at 75 and die by 80, so having 5 years of salary to fade into oblivion with sounds nice.
And better to have just a bit extra, too, so that your leftover funds can pay off all the medical debt incurred while dying so your family doesn't inherit it.
Fuck it really is bleak, isn't it?
This includes the people that died in their 50s and 60s and only worked their entire life with no vacation
Rule of thumb is 1x at 30, 3 times at 40
As investments get larger, they reach a "boiling point" where they build up much quicker.
This rule of thumb is meant for someone retiring at age 65
I bought my first house at 30 how tf am i supposed to also have had enough money to have a whole years worth of pay saved. This may have been great advice 10 years ago, and is probably still great today, but seems unreachable for a significant number of people.
The house is a form of saving and investment, the value of that minus the debt would count for these numbers.
How?? You didn't just take a nickel from the couch cushions and pay for an entire semester of college right before driving your $500 dollar NEW luxury vehicle to buy your 3rd house for 10k?
Kids are so lazy these days
Seriously... I have a coworker like this. He's in his 60s and talks about the numerous properties he owns and rents that he bought decades ago and asks me why I don't do it...
Motherfucker we're underpaid factory workers, how the fuck am I supposed to get $500k and who the hell is going to rent that house at the price I'd have to set for rent? Just because you got your houses for ~90k back then doesn't mean I can now...
It's insane. I have clients all the time tell me "oh you should travel more" yeah I'll get right fuckin on that
"retiring at age 65"
Hah! I'll be dead long before I retire.
Is that rule of thumb for retirement savings or savings in general?
Retirement savings specifically
It is. You need at least six moths.
Nice; there's definitely way more than just 6 moths around where I live.
Go ahead and gloat about all of your moths while we all talk about not being able to retire. What an asshole
Btw, can I borrow two moths? I'm trying to catch the bus to get home