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no slop grenade: Stop throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
I didn't. The thesis is AI essays in inappropriate medium is bad. And it's an essay.
A human-written essay in a medium that is appropriate.
If you don't understand the difference, you may be suffering from effects from LLM overusage.
In an inappropriate medium?
No, I don't believe I said that either. Are there any other things I didn't say you wanted to go over?
If you are saying it's ironic for the author to do the same thing they are criticizing, then yes, you're saying that. Otherwise, there's little to nothing similar about them, hence my original comment.
I'm saying the author is writing an essay for a concept that can easily be understood in a sentence, yes. And I find it ironic. Not bad, just funny. And somehow this offends people.
It's a lost cause on here, as soon as you made a comment that wasn't immediately and clearly anti-AI you're going to get dogpiled with bad faith arguments and downvotes.
The irony of people commenting in a post promoting human writing while also failing to understand basic concepts of writing, such as irony.
I assume you went to the "ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife"* school of irony?
Irony typically requires the things to be equivalent. AI writing is not equivalent to human writing, a private website is not slack and a comment about the detriments of AI is not equivalent to a work chat. The only common element would be essays, and they weren't the subject of criticism.
And even then, the page isn't nearly the same style as the essays they're complaining about.
Maybe it's a reading comprehension issue? Should probably ask some LLM to pick out the core points, maybe it'll do a better job.
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*Alanis Morissette, Ironic, a song that contains as many good examples of irony as bad ones
It's an anti-essay essay, it was obvious that they were making a surface level joke if you're not looking for reasons to be outraged.
It should have been very clear to you what they meant, since the person clarified what they meant 8 hours before your comment and that comment was, literally, 2 comments under mine.
It is hypocritical, bordering on ironic, to condescend about reading comprehension while ignoring the very thread you are participating in.
Their comment said:
My argument is: "The irony doesn't hold because the topic is too specific."
If the OP wrote an essay about how they hate essays, that would be ironic. But they wrote about a very specific type they hate, so the irony doesn't apply any more, unless they had an AI generate it and posted it to their work channel.
Weren't you the one that pulled "They just hate that you don't trash AI" from literally nowhere?
The comments preceding yours said the same thing I'm saying. Nobody ever accused anyone of being pro-AI or whatever, the whole conversation was about whether the different type of post in a different mediums qualifies as ironic.
Then you came swinging in, reading things into the text for no reason. That's not even ignoring the thread so much as fabricating an entire separate one.
This is just tedious
The irony they were referring to was a person writing an essay against essays, that's it. It doesn't require deep analysis. It was obvious what they meant when they wrote it and they have explicitly clarified that point.
Here is the commentor explicitly saying what they were referring to:
Pointing out all of the ways that the two situations are dissimilar doesn't change what the person was referring to when they wrote their comment.
You can't inject your own meaning and intent into the words that someone else wrote nor is irony some objectively defined category. If someone finds something funny, you can't come along and tell them all of the ways that they are wrong.
Here, this is what your role this conversation looks like to me.
It wasn't from 'literally' nowhere, it was literally from my mind.
Do you not know what 'literally' means? You actually mean figuratively.
Also, it wasn't 'pulled' because sentence formation actually comes from pre-conciousness so it would actually be pushed instead of pulled.
(See how tedious it is?)
Shall we continue?
(I'm going to choose to read this literally, and not in the way that you intended it.)
There have certainly been people throughout recent history that have accused someone of being pro-AI. So when you say 'nobody ever' you're actually wrong because there have been many accusations of being pro-AI on social media.
(What you intended when you wrote that is irrelevant if I can find a way of framing your words that lets me make you sound wrong.)
As far as what you meant, yes someone fabricate a 'pro-AI' stance out of thin air.:
I'm done writing essays on the irony of, or lack thereof, complaining about people complaining about people complaining about essays.
I mean can pro-AI comments at least make sense?
People not finding someone writing an essay in response to being annoyed at people sending them irrelevant essays funny is acceptable enough to me. I don't care if people don't share my humor. The absolute wall of defensive text I've received in response is also funny, in a discussion about an essay about the value of brevity. And so is the idea that any of this is pro AI. I can also assure you the irony of how much I've typed is also not lost on me. Frankly this thread is about to produce a singularity of irony.
Oh there's plenty of funny stuff going on and it's not like the downvotes matter. I mean that guy using Socratic irony to tell my why I found something ironically funny was wrong was amusing in itself if incredibly tedious.
It's irony all the way down