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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Pretty obvious to anyone who observed it:

  1. Biden held on too long making it impossible to run a proper primary.

  2. Harris wasn't allowed to differentiate herself from Biden.

Time of Death: October 8th, 2024:

https://youtube.com/shorts/SJRk5PV588Q

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And having no primaries turned off a lot of people. It’s like he died and she was sworn into office, except he didn’t actually die and she never took office.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup, and it takes 6 to 8 months to organize a primary, 100 days to the election wasn't enough time.

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

That’s fair, but it’s Biden’s fault we didn’t have that time. After being sworn in, he said he wouldn’t run for re-election, then he broke that promise in a display of horrible judgment.

But no matter how we got a candidate with no primary, it still turned off a lot of people to just have her dropped on us.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I felt like she had so much traction in the beginning, and with Walz coming in on board and really hitting the MAGA in the stomach with their comebacks.

But then suddenly they just stopped, and MAGA was able to reposition and gain the upper hand for the remainder of the season.

So yeah, shit themselves in the foot a few months before the end. Such a shame, I think they would’ve ok.

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I distinctly remember when they told Walz to stop calling out how weird the Elon/Vance/Trump crew all were. It was working and I couldn't understand why stop. Some wormtongue consultant or PAC? It was baffling

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many people point to the influence that Uber exec and Kamala-brother-in-law Tony West had on the campaign.

His pro-corporate policies helped Kamala raise a billion dollars, but accepting that corporate money is a deal with the devil: it shifted her policy proposals and rhetoric significantly to the right.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 19 hours ago

And all the consultants from UK labour party.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I don't know if it's just the same Democrat consultants every presidential election, but the last three elections they've always, always reverted to, "The election is three months away but you've already won, so for the love of god don't do anything inspiring or unexpected, and just start focusing on getting Republican votes."

[–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But then suddenly they just stopped, and MAGA was able to reposition and gain the upper hand for the remainder of the season.

Don't forget cozying up to Republicans. I think they took the campaign to the right because of some crazy idea that they needed to try for getting Republican votes. They stopped punching maga in the nose out of a misguided idea that they might steal some R votes from Trump.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

She was just inept. Remember her talking about how much she liked her handgun? She should have used Hapiness Is A Warm Gun as a campaign tune.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (6 children)
  1. people dont like unwaivering support for genocidal Israel
[–] kvasir476@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (18 children)

It's gotta be either this or evidence that the base is further left than they thought and moderating to the right was a dogshit strategy. Nothing else seems like it's threatening enough to the establishment to warrant burying the report. Though if I was gonna bet, I'd be putting it on support for Israel.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

3rd option would be evidence of election fraud by GOP but they are afraid DOJ will go after them.

[–] kvasir476@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LMAO if that's it, we're even more fucked than I thought.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

We are actually very fucked unless Americans woke up.

https://youtu.be/XaqKHHbSOEc

This is take from an American historian and she also mentions that US has this happen 2 times already and people woke up and stopped it. Let's hope this time it won't be different.

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[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Anyone still describing support under Dems as "unwaivering" compared to Trump deepthroating Netanyahu, posting Gaza riviera AI slop, and being puppeted into attacking Iran needs to take their pills. Not to mention, Trump likely caused Oct.7 in the first place with his dogshit handling of the middle east during his first term.

Progressives got scammed by the right & foreign states into not voting for Kamala because of Gaza. Which ironically, made them tools for Israel's interests. Braindead clowns.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. People are beginning to wake up that good/bad cop is still slave patrol for the empire.
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are giving people way too much credit here. Your average voter for either side isn't thinking this hard.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago

Hence "beginning."

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

people dont like unwaivering support for genocidal Israel

Some of us draw a harder line: as long as Israel is genocidal, no support. Sanctions instead. So where's a party that actually runs on that?

[–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't understand this one. Both sides seem to support this?

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump ran explicitly on ending the “war”. A lot of people knew it was bullshit but some people held out hope and voted for him.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except he was always vaguely hinting that by end the war he meant give Isreal everything they wanted therefore "ending" the war. Same with Russia and Ukraine.

True, but vague hinting doesn't tend to find its way to the headlines and newscast sound bytes that are the extent of information that an abysmally large portion of persuadable voters receive and base their vote on.

That's a BIG part of why Trump has ever been the least bit successful in spite of being an obvious fraud to anyone paying even slightly close attention.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

haha you wish, it was just traitors like yourself that used it as an excuse to allow trump into power

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wasn’t allowed

What would be the consequences if she went off-piste?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Abandonment by the Biden camp, who were really the only people supporting her.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Abandonment by the Biden camp, who were really the only people supporting her.

Her going the opposite as soon as it showed up well in the polls also didn't help

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There were other potential donors who sat it out because she was running as Biden 2.0.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yup, but they had less money than the Biden machine.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Harris 'wasn't allowed'? Fuck that, you're the candidate now. What would they have done, unannounced you? She doesn't have the ovaries to take a strong stand.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

All that financial backing didn't help her win. She would rather lose the election than lose a source of money.

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago

She also refused any broadcast interviews of substance to make her case.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still say if Biden has stepped down at year 2 and let Harris be president for 2 years she would have won very effectively. I'll never understand why that didn't happen. Hell he could have just said he was sick with cancer and stepped down for to health problems

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was so mad when he ran again. I had a distinct memory of him running as a "transition" president in 2019 - which my fool ass took to mean one term

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 2 points 19 hours ago

Totally agree I remember him saying he would not run again