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[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

People need to stop thinking that excess protein intake when sedentary will develop muscle. The bottom line is that excess calories consumed beyond total daily energy expenditure will cause weight gain. And not the muscular kind of weight. Protein has 4 calories per gram so it's not a freebie diet food that magically builds muscle. It only builds muscle if you exercise. Not sitting on yer arse.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn't say it would cause muscle gain, they said prevents muscle loss. Those are two vert different claims

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

True, I did notice that & apologize for not acknowledging that part. But they also said "excess" protein consumption. Excess protein intake will cause fat gain because that's what excess calories from any source will do. Another commenter said that excess protein will be pooped out as long as the person is getting enough calories & nutrients from other sources, so that's something I've never heard before, but the bottom line is that excess calories equals fat gain.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Depends on how you are defining excess. Excess of 2000 calories yes. Excess of the daily reccomended amount of protein no not necessarily. It just depends on how the rest of their diet is portioned. You can eat 200g of protien a day and not exceed daily calorie allotments.

Really depends on their definition of excess

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Protein has 4 calories per gram

Protein is only used as fuel in extremis, it's a dirty fuel and the body will poop what it doesn't need for repair if there's enough other calories coming in. Also only some amino acids are biochemically amenable to conversion to energy, whereas the 4cal/g figure is from burning it all in air. Protein does not turn into cake, you can however argue the excess is wasted, but how much is excess for a given individual is a hard question.

You're quite right about needing stimulus to grow, but the statement was about maintenance.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can turn protein into cake I've done it

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps, but nobody in this thread argued it built muscle, only helps retain it if you're sedentary.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah the current marketing obsession with protein just screams fad diet. Remember "super foods" where you try to throw certain nutrient dense ingredients into all of your food? Whatever happened to that?

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

The SuperFood fad is timeless wisdom. People who stick with that are golden.

Almonds, blueberries, quinoa, avocado, bone broth, walnuts, salmon, kale, spinach etc 💕

[–] natecox@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

Plus excess protein is bad for you. Your body just has to work harder to filter anything you don't use out.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A cousin of mine who games all day started chugging protein for 3 years from 15-18. Dude became really bulky, like big, but not really muscular. Sometimes I genuinely can't tell if he's fat or 50.

I think a more correct term would be mass-growth, not muscle growth.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

He’s fat he just has it evenly distributed. Evenly distributed fat is genetic not what he’s eating

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I got four hours of exercise today sitting on my arse

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Flex yer glutes while sitting. Pump em up, do 20 sets of 20 repetitions, and get some amusement out of people's reactions as they walk by seeing you riding your invisible horse on your chair.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh! You weren't being facetious 😄 you really DO get 4 hours of exercise sitting on your arse.

I have an "Elliptigo SUB (stand-up bike)" It's got no seat. I love it so much.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 3 weeks ago

I made a protein comment like this earlier too and people thought I was making a joke buy protein powder is mostly wheat protein and men can get weird and meat has lots of fat and men can get real weird and I've gwd some strange cakes requested by straight friends back when I had those

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev -1 points 3 weeks ago

The didn’t say that. They say it encourages retention as opposed to muscle loss. It’s true. Get off your weird soapbox, your fact while true wasn’t relevant here.