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[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Revolution is necessary, because the bourgeois state cannot be dismantled and a proletarian state put in place via peaceful means.

[โ€“] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If they thought we could vote our way into socialism, they wouldn't let us vote.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Definitely true!

[โ€“] DragonAce@lemmy.world -4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Hence the supreme court decision and the mad rush to gerrymander the fuck out of every state they can.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The DNC isn't socialist though, it's just two factions of capitalists duking it out.

[โ€“] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

While that's true, I do think that neither of those camps is willing to so much as slide back into a welfare state (even with extra imperialism on the side). The DNC doesn't want any more Mamdanis (even though he's a socdem at best), and if they think this'll prevent that, they'll let it happen, no matter how much they claim to oppose it. If there were any possibility of an actual socialist being elected, we'd see way worse than this.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed! I actually think the current factional war within the DNC might make room for a third party.

[โ€“] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think you may be right. I just hope we can get them to move left instead of right. Nate Bear's recent post really gave me pause, because I know a lot of people who want to maintain their treats above all else. I want to have some faith in humanity, but we're definitely going to have our work cut out for us, I think.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I won't hold out for the DNC moving left. Entryism doesn't seem to be a valid approach.

[โ€“] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Agreed. The DNC is bought and paid for.

Edit to add: I think I was unclear. In my previous comment "them" referred to the general public, not the Democrats.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Ah, gotcha, agreed!

[โ€“] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

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[โ€“] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're probably right, but I do worry about any violence that would ensue . . .

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago

Violence is an unfortunate necessity when pacifism ensures loss.