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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"wHy ArEn'T tHe YoUnGeR gEnErAtIoNs GeTtInG mArRiEd AnD hAvInG cHiLdReN??"

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

marriage and children is more expensive than dating, by far. fulltime childcare costs are 2-5K per kid, for about 4-5 years before they can get into kindergarten. if one partner makes less than 50-75K, it makes no sense for them to work.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

nordic nations with lots of subsidies also have kow birthrates

if you give women choice, (education, careers etc) they mostly choose 0, 1 or 2 kids at most, all of those choices are below replacement. For every woman choosing 0, you need another choosing 5 just to stand still.

If you take away choice, keep women mostly at home, use religious indoctrination (quiver full) and insist upon a patriarchal society sans birth control you'll raise the birthrate. It's why many conservatives are starting to talk about banning birth control, where once they frowned on teen moms, they're now advocating for it.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

True, but unless you or your partner are against the very idea, most prospective relationships start with dating, then are moving toward marriage, children, or both.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

yes, and mostly 1 or 2 kids at most which is a falling birthrate, for every woman that chooses 0, you need another to choose 5 basically just to stand still.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

some well-off professionals in nyc, have basically started 'plantonic co-parenting' arrangements.

as in, two well-off couples produce a child, but are not romantically involved, the child is basically a small business they co-own and invest in... and the child is not a product of love, but a product of financial investment of each partner...

basically child production without dating, marriage, or any personal relationship between the parents.

that's where we are today. the concept of a loving family is now being replaced by purely transactional relationships that are treated as business arrangements.